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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:50:26 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


>> Have you noticed that the Apple trolls act exactly like herd animals do?
>> 
> 
> It's amazing to me that the three who responded  accused me of being
> paranoid or a liar. If they really believe that then at least explain why
> you think that way. Surely I can't be the only person here who's
> experienced such a thing. I don't even understand why these people hang out
> in this group if it's not for the exchange of information and being helpful
> to each other.

I only saw one person's response, whom I suspect is Alan Baker's nym, but
nonetheless I certainly believe you as the herd doesn't like your question.

I saw Alan Baker's attack on you in your quoted response, so if three
"people" responded, I'm already quite sure they all attacked you.

That's how herd animals prevent you from asking questions in the future.

Anyway, adults would simple either try to help you, or, if the adult can't
help you, the adult let's someone else help you (and doesn't respond).

When adults try to help you, they can learn from the resuls, but you'll
notice the herd animals don't even try to help (or to learn).

All they do is attack you.

Anyway, I tried to help you by first explaining that your question is
commonly asked on normal operating system newsgroups. Just last week we
were discussing similar topics - so it's not a "paranoia". It's normal.

As for the iPhone, while possible, the timing of the video appearing in
your feed so soon after your conversation is certainly possibly suspicious.

Let's ignore the Apple trolls' repetitively childish attempts to shut your
question down and work on answers for you. Do you have Siri working? 

Apparently, even if you haven't directly used Siri to search, it actively
listens for its wake phrase ("Hey Siri"). It's maybe perhaps possible that
during your conversation, Siri interpreted certain words or phrases (like
"Goldwing," "alternator," or "GL1800") as potential search queries????

If so, then Siri's contextual awareness could then influence your YouTube
recommendations, even without a direct search having been done by you.

In addition, YouTube's algorithm is known to be extremely sophisticated and
considers numerous factors, including your viewing history (even if it's
unrelated and, get this, it uses the viewing history of people with similar
interests. Yup. Who knew. Not me. I looked it up. 

Apparently YouTube also uses the content of videos you've previously
interacted with even if you haven't searched for "GL1800 alternator".

YouTube, apparently, can infer your interest based on other
motorcycle-related content you may have watched.

Oddly, and shockingly, it turn out, Google might even use your location,
and the location of other people near you, that watch similar content, to
determine what to feed you.

It is possible that the algorithm has correlated the location of you and
your friend by bluetooth proximity, and then correlated that with the
location of other people that watch those videos.

For example, if your friend's phone was nearby and he had previously
searched for or watched videos related to bike alternators, it's possible
that YouTube's algorithm factored in this proximity since modern
advertising and content delivery can both use bluetooth to determine close
proximity of devices.

It's not likely in your case, but if you and your friend were on the same
Wi-Fi network or using the same internet connection, YouTube may have
correlated your activity (which is how it ties family members together).

Here is a link to a youtube blog about some of what I found out above.
 <https://blog.youtube/inside-youtube/on-youtubes-recommendation-system/>

Here is a link to a website that explains how the youtube algorithm works. 
 <https://blog.hootsuite.com/youtube-algorithm/>
-- 
Note that the energy I put into this one post is more helpful energy than
Alan Baker has invested in all the posts he's made in his entire life.

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listening badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 21:41 +0000
  Re: listening Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:42 -0700
    Re: listening Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-22 23:56 -0400
    Re: listening badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 11:26 +0000
      Re: listening Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-23 17:36 +0000
        Re: listening badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 17:50 +0000
          Re: listening Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-23 18:12 +0000
            Re: listening "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 18:43 +0000
      Re: listening Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:48 -0700
        Re: listening Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 07:27 +0100
        Re: listening badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 09:25 +0000
          Re: listening Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 13:31 +0100
          Re: listening Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 08:57 -0700
  Re: listening Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-23 11:05 +0100
  Re: listening Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-23 17:29 +0000

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