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[PATCH v3 0/5] coresight: enable debug module

Started byLeo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
First post2017-03-03 08:10 +0100
Last post2017-03-09 14:30 +0100
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  [PATCH v3 0/5] coresight: enable debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-03 08:10 +0100
    [PATCH v3 2/5] coresight: refactor with function of_coresight_get_cpu Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-03 08:10 +0100
    [PATCH v3 5/5] arm64: dts: hi6220: register debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-03 09:00 +0100
    [PATCH v3 4/5] clk: hi6220: add debug APB clock Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-03 10:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] clk: hi6220: add debug APB clock Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> - 2017-03-04 01:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] clk: hi6220: add debug APB clock Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-17 16:40 +0100
    [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-03 13:40 +0100
      Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-09 18:10 +0100
        Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-09 19:10 +0100
          Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-10 15:40 +0100
            Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-13 09:20 +0100
            Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-13 18:00 +0100
              Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-15 17:50 +0100
                Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-15 21:50 +0100
                  Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-17 11:50 +0100
                    Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-17 17:00 +0100
                      Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-17 17:40 +0100
                        Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-17 17:50 +0100
                          Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-20 13:40 +0100
                          Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-20 17:50 +0100
                            Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-21 04:10 +0100
                              Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-21 11:20 +0100
                                Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-21 12:50 +0100
                                  Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-21 16:30 +0100
          Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-13 17:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-03-21 16:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-03-22 15:20 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org> - 2017-03-22 17:00 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-03-22 17:20 +0100
              Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-22 18:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-03-22 18:40 +0100
                  Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-23 08:40 +0100
                    Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org> - 2017-03-23 13:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-22 17:10 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-03-22 18:10 +0100
    [PATCH v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for debug module Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> - 2017-03-03 19:50 +0100
      Re: [v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for debug module Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> - 2017-03-09 14:30 +0100

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#1605271 — Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromLeo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-21 04:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnilk-5Lg-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1604788
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40:00AM -0600, Mathieu Poirier wrote:

[...]

> >>> If we don't check for "nohlt" some platform may freeze, others may work.
> >>> If we
> >>> mandate that "nohlt" be present on the kernel cmd line it works in all
> >>> cases.
> >>> As such mandating that "nohlt" be present is a better way to go.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sure, so I will add below checking code in the probe function, please
> >> let me know if you have alter better way to implement this:
> >>
> >> +       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_CPU_IDLE) &&
> >> +                       !strstr(boot_command_line, "nohlt")) {
> >> +               dev_err(dev, "May not be accessible in CPU power
> >> domain.\n");
> >> +               return -EPERM;
> >> +       }
> >>
> >
> > There is an API which kind of achieves what "nohlt" does at runtime :
> >
> >   cpu_idle_poll_ctrl(true)
> >
> > So may be we could use that instead of depending on "nohlt". The other side
> > of the issues is "when do we decide to use the API". May be we could add
> > something
> > like : enable_debug, which could then trigger the panic notifier
> > registrations
> > and the above. That would still leave us with a case where the system
> > crashes
> > even before the user gets a terminal. May be the following is the best
> > option :
> >
> > 1) Dedicated kernel command line parameter for enabling the CPU debug at
> > boot/probe.
> >
> > and
> >
> > 2) Runtime enable method via sysfs.
> >
> > What do you think ?
> 
> In my opinion booting with "nohlt" on the cmd line is sufficient to
> determine if we should use the driver or not.  That way we also avoid
> declaring yet another sysfs flag, something I really want to avoid.

Agree.

I did spend some time to implement coresight core framework to support
debug module, you could see it on:http://termbin.com/k2fj; this also
gives me more sense which is better choice. If declaring another sysfs
flag to support debug module in coresight framework, this lets the
codes and interfaces more complex. E.g. for best fit into coresight
framework, finally we can get 8 sysfs nodes for 8 CPUs in system; so
that means we need enable every CPU one by one.

root@linaro-developer:~# ls /sys/bus/coresight/devices/
f6590000.debug  f6594000.debug  f65d0000.debug  f65d4000.debug
f6592000.debug  f6596000.debug  f65d2000.debug  f65d6000.debug

This is not quite reasonable to introduce complexity for either code
or using it. If we review coresight topology, some components need to
interact with each other and coresight framework should handle them
properly to enable/disable path, etc. But as Mathieu meantioned, from
the point of the hardware topology, the CPU debug module is quite
standalone under the coresight umbrella, and it has no any dependency
with other tracing or bus modules. So it's good to keep it simple,
this also matches with hardware implementation.

Thanks,
Leo Yan

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#1605484 — Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSuzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>
Date2017-03-21 11:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnp3s-1Vs-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1605271
On 21/03/17 02:59, Leo Yan wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40:00AM -0600, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>> If we don't check for "nohlt" some platform may freeze, others may work.
>>>>> If we
>>>>> mandate that "nohlt" be present on the kernel cmd line it works in all
>>>>> cases.
>>>>> As such mandating that "nohlt" be present is a better way to go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, so I will add below checking code in the probe function, please
>>>> let me know if you have alter better way to implement this:
>>>>
>>>> +       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_CPU_IDLE) &&
>>>> +                       !strstr(boot_command_line, "nohlt")) {
>>>> +               dev_err(dev, "May not be accessible in CPU power
>>>> domain.\n");
>>>> +               return -EPERM;
>>>> +       }
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is an API which kind of achieves what "nohlt" does at runtime :
>>>
>>>   cpu_idle_poll_ctrl(true)
>>>
>>> So may be we could use that instead of depending on "nohlt". The other side
>>> of the issues is "when do we decide to use the API". May be we could add
>>> something
>>> like : enable_debug, which could then trigger the panic notifier
>>> registrations
>>> and the above. That would still leave us with a case where the system
>>> crashes
>>> even before the user gets a terminal. May be the following is the best
>>> option :
>>>
>>> 1) Dedicated kernel command line parameter for enabling the CPU debug at
>>> boot/probe.
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> 2) Runtime enable method via sysfs.
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>
>> In my opinion booting with "nohlt" on the cmd line is sufficient to
>> determine if we should use the driver or not.  That way we also avoid
>> declaring yet another sysfs flag, something I really want to avoid.
>
> Agree.
>
> I did spend some time to implement coresight core framework to support
> debug module, you could see it on:http://termbin.com/k2fj; this also
> gives me more sense which is better choice. If declaring another sysfs
> flag to support debug module in coresight framework, this lets the
> codes and interfaces more complex. E.g. for best fit into coresight
> framework, finally we can get 8 sysfs nodes for 8 CPUs in system; so
> that means we need enable every CPU one by one.

Having a node for each debug area indeed doesn't look good. We could
as will stick a single node under /sys/kernel/debug/ which would enable/disable
the debug component.

I am OK with it being tied to nohlt. In that case we will have to add
a Kconfig dependency on GENERIC_IDLE_POLL_SETUP (though it is selected
by default on ARM/ARM64). Parsing the boot command line for nohlt doesn't
look like a good idea. We may have to figure out a way to do that. Also,
please could you add support for building this as a module ? Since it
doesn't depend on the coresight bus anyway, it should be pretty straight
forward.

Suzuki

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#1605531 — Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromLeo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-21 12:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnqsz-2K1-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1605484
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:16:45AM +0000, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:

[...]

> >>In my opinion booting with "nohlt" on the cmd line is sufficient to
> >>determine if we should use the driver or not.  That way we also avoid
> >>declaring yet another sysfs flag, something I really want to avoid.
> >
> >Agree.
> >
> >I did spend some time to implement coresight core framework to support
> >debug module, you could see it on:http://termbin.com/k2fj; this also
> >gives me more sense which is better choice. If declaring another sysfs
> >flag to support debug module in coresight framework, this lets the
> >codes and interfaces more complex. E.g. for best fit into coresight
> >framework, finally we can get 8 sysfs nodes for 8 CPUs in system; so
> >that means we need enable every CPU one by one.
> 
> Having a node for each debug area indeed doesn't look good. We could
> as will stick a single node under /sys/kernel/debug/ which would enable/disable
> the debug component.
> 
> I am OK with it being tied to nohlt. In that case we will have to add
> a Kconfig dependency on GENERIC_IDLE_POLL_SETUP (though it is selected
> by default on ARM/ARM64). Parsing the boot command line for nohlt doesn't
> look like a good idea. We may have to figure out a way to do that.

I remembered that we can use QoS constraint for CPUIdle:
        pm_qos_add_request(pm_qos_req, PM_QOS_CPU_DMA_LATENCY, 0);

Using this way we can disable all low power states and don't depend on
nohlt anymore.

> Also, please could you add support for building this as a module ? Since it
> doesn't depend on the coresight bus anyway, it should be pretty straight
> forward.

Yeah. Will support module building.

Thanks,
Leo Yan

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#1605736 — Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromMathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-21 16:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tntTu-5b0-73@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1605531
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 07:47:11PM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:16:45AM +0000, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > >>In my opinion booting with "nohlt" on the cmd line is sufficient to
> > >>determine if we should use the driver or not.  That way we also avoid
> > >>declaring yet another sysfs flag, something I really want to avoid.
> > >
> > >Agree.
> > >
> > >I did spend some time to implement coresight core framework to support
> > >debug module, you could see it on:http://termbin.com/k2fj; this also
> > >gives me more sense which is better choice. If declaring another sysfs
> > >flag to support debug module in coresight framework, this lets the
> > >codes and interfaces more complex. E.g. for best fit into coresight
> > >framework, finally we can get 8 sysfs nodes for 8 CPUs in system; so
> > >that means we need enable every CPU one by one.
> > 
> > Having a node for each debug area indeed doesn't look good. We could
> > as will stick a single node under /sys/kernel/debug/ which would enable/disable
> > the debug component.
> > 
> > I am OK with it being tied to nohlt. In that case we will have to add
> > a Kconfig dependency on GENERIC_IDLE_POLL_SETUP (though it is selected
> > by default on ARM/ARM64). Parsing the boot command line for nohlt doesn't
> > look like a good idea. We may have to figure out a way to do that.
> 
> I remembered that we can use QoS constraint for CPUIdle:
>         pm_qos_add_request(pm_qos_req, PM_QOS_CPU_DMA_LATENCY, 0);
> 
> Using this way we can disable all low power states and don't depend on
> nohlt anymore.

The idea is to use "nohlt" as a trigger option.  If it is set then we use this
driver - if it isn't then it is kept under wrap.

> 
> > Also, please could you add support for building this as a module ? Since it
> > doesn't depend on the coresight bus anyway, it should be pretty straight
> > forward.
> 
> Yeah. Will support module building.
> 
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan

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#1599579 — Re: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromMathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-13 17:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tkBaO-3bi-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1596281
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 01:59:15AM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> Hi Suziku,
> 
> Thanks for reviewing, please see some replying.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 04:53:05PM +0000, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> > On 03/03/17 06:00, Leo Yan wrote:
> > >Coresight includes debug module and usually the module connects with CPU
> > >debug logic. ARMv8 architecture reference manual (ARM DDI 0487A.k) has
> > >description for related info in "Part H: External Debug".
> > >
> > >Chapter H7 "The Sample-based Profiling Extension" introduces several
> > >sampling registers, e.g. we can check program counter value with
> > >combined CPU exception level, secure state, etc. So this is helpful for
> > >analysis CPU lockup scenarios, e.g. if one CPU has run into infinite
> > >loop with IRQ disabled. In this case the CPU cannot switch context and
> > >handle any interrupt (including IPIs), as the result it cannot handle
> > >SMP call for stack dump.
> > >
> > >This patch is to enable coresight debug module, so firstly this driver
> > >is to bind apb clock for debug module and this is to ensure the debug
> > >module can be accessed from program or external debugger. And the driver
> > >uses sample-based registers for debug purpose, e.g. when system detects
> > >the CPU lockup and trigger panic, the driver will dump program counter
> > >and combined context registers (EDCIDSR, EDVIDSR); by parsing context
> > >registers so can quickly get to know CPU secure state, exception level,
> > >etc.
> > 
> > The problem is, it is not guaranteed that the EDPCSR_Hi, EDCIDSR & EDVIDSR are
> > updated as a side effect of a memory mapped access (which is what we do here) to the
> > EDPCSR_Lo.
> > 
> > Section H.7.1.2 : Reads of EDPCSRs (in ARM DDI 0487A.k) :
> > 
> > "The indirect writes to EDCIDSR, EDVIDSR, and EDPCSRhi might not occur for a memory-mapped access
> > to the external debug interface. For more information, see Memory-mapped accesses to the external debug
> > interface on page H8-4968."
> > 
> > So we cannot really rely on the values in EDVIDSR which we use to make further decisions. So I
> > am wondering if this is really guranteed to be useful.
> 
> So this is caused by Software lock is locked?
> 
> Section H8.4.1: 
> 
> "Reads and writes have no side-effects. A side-effect is where a
> direct read or a direct write of a register creates
> an indirect write of the same or another register. When the Software
> Lock is locked, the indirect write does
> not occur."
> 
> > >Some of the debug module registers are located in CPU power domain, so
> > >in the driver it has checked the power state for CPU before accessing
> > >registers within CPU power domain. For most safe way to use this driver,
> > >it's suggested to disable CPU low power states, this can simply set
> > >"nohlt" in kernel command line.
> > >
> > >Signed-off-by: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
> > >---
> > > drivers/hwtracing/coresight/Kconfig           |  10 +
> > > drivers/hwtracing/coresight/Makefile          |   1 +
> > > drivers/hwtracing/coresight/coresight-debug.c | 377 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 3 files changed, 388 insertions(+)
> > > create mode 100644 drivers/hwtracing/coresight/coresight-debug.c
> > >
> > >diff --git a/drivers/hwtracing/coresight/Kconfig b/drivers/hwtracing/coresight/Kconfig
> > >index 130cb21..3ed651e 100644
> > >--- a/drivers/hwtracing/coresight/Kconfig
> > >+++ b/drivers/hwtracing/coresight/Kconfig
> > >@@ -89,4 +89,14 @@ config CORESIGHT_STM
> > > 	  logging useful software events or data coming from various entities
> > > 	  in the system, possibly running different OSs
> > >
> > >+config CORESIGHT_DEBUG
> > 
> > To make it more specific, may be CORESIGHT_CPU_DEBUG ?
> 
> Will fix.
> 
> > >+	bool "CoreSight debug driver"
> > 
> > "Coresight CPU Debug driver"
> 
> Will fix.
> 
> > >+	depends on ARM || ARM64
> > >+	help
> > >+	  This driver provides support for coresight debugging module. This
> > >+	  is primarily used to dump sample-based profiling registers for
> > >+	  panic. To avoid lockups when accessing debug module registers,
> > >+	  it is safer to disable CPU low power states (like "nohlt" on the
> > >+	  kernel command line) when using this feature.
> > >+
> > 
> > >+#define EDPCSR_THUMB			BIT(0)
> > >+#define EDPCSR_ARM_INST_MASK		GENMASK(31, 2)
> > >+#define EDPCSR_THUMB_INST_MASK		GENMASK(31, 1)
> > 
> > We don't need two different masks. {ED/DBG}PCSR has only bit 0 reserved
> > for instruction set indication.
> 
> I think we need this two different masks. Please review below extra doc
> for PC offset analysis in ARM ARM.
> 
> > >+#endif
> > >+
> > >+/* bits definition for EDPRSR */
> > >+#define EDPRSR_DLK			BIT(6)
> > >+#define EDPRSR_PU			BIT(0)
> > >+
> > >+
> > >+static void debug_read_regs(struct debug_drvdata *drvdata)
> > >+{
> > >+	drvdata->edprsr = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDPRSR);
> > >+
> > >+	if (!debug_access_permitted(drvdata))
> > >+		return;
> > >+
> > >+	if (!drvdata->edpcsr_present)
> > >+		return;
> > >+
> > >+	CS_UNLOCK(drvdata->base);
> > >+
> > >+	debug_os_unlock(drvdata);
> > >+
> > >+	drvdata->edpcsr = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDPCSR);
> > >+
> > >+	/*
> > >+	 * As described in ARM DDI 0487A.k, if the processing
> > >+	 * element (PE) is in debug state, or sample-based
> > >+	 * profiling is prohibited, EDPCSR reads as 0xFFFFFFFF;
> > >+	 * EDCIDSR, EDVIDSR and EDPCSR_HI registers also become
> > >+	 * UNKNOWN state. So directly bail out for this case.
> > >+	 */
> > >+	if (drvdata->edpcsr == EDPCSR_PROHIBITED) {
> > >+		CS_LOCK(drvdata->base);
> > >+		return;
> > >+	}
> > >+
> > >+	/*
> > >+	 * A read of the EDPCSR normally has the side-effect of
> > >+	 * indirectly writing to EDCIDSR, EDVIDSR and EDPCSR_HI;
> > >+	 * at this point it's safe to read value from them.
> > >+	 */
> > 
> > See my comment above about the side effects of memory mapped access.
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> > >+	drvdata->edcidsr = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDCIDSR);
> > >+#ifdef CONFIG_64BIT
> > >+	drvdata->edpcsr_hi = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDPCSR_HI);
> > >+#endif
> > 
> > >+
> > >+	if (drvdata->edvidsr_present)
> > >+		drvdata->edvidsr = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDVIDSR);
> > >+
> > >+	CS_LOCK(drvdata->base);
> > >+}
> > >+
> > 
> > >+#ifndef CONFIG_64BIT
> > 
> > I guess this doesn't help for an ARMv8 32bit only core (e.g, Cortex-A32). And
> > unfortunately, there are conflicting definitions for the values for PCSROffset w.r.t
> > ARMv8 and ARMv7.
> > 
> > DBGDEVID1[3:0] For ARMv7 :
> > 
> > 0000 - Sample offset applies based on the instruction state.
> > 0001 - No offset applies.
> > 
> > EDDEVID1[3:0] For ARMv8 :
> > 0000 - EDPCSR not implemented
> > 0010 - EDPCSR implemented without offsets, but do not use in AArch32 state!
> > 
> > So there is no easy way to make sense of the value, unless you know which version
> > of the architecture is in use. Or may be we could co-relate it with the value from
> > DEVID.
> > 
> > i.e, EDPCSR is not implemented do not register this device, see comments on debug_probe().
> > ( And we should also include the following test for 32bit code to see if edpcsr is implemented.
> > See comments on debug_init_arch_data() )
> > 
> > 
> > That way, we could use the following inference from the PCSROffset value :
> > 
> > 0000 - Sample offset applies based on the instruction state (indicated by PCSR[0])
> > 0001 - No offset applies.
> > 0010 - No offset applies, but do not use in AArch32 mode
> 
> Just now I went through ARM ARM and ARMv8 ARM, this makes sense to me.
> Thanks for good pointing for this.
> 
> > >+static bool debug_pc_has_offset(struct debug_drvdata *drvdata)
> > >+{
> > >+	u32 pcsr_offset;
> > >+
> > >+	pcsr_offset = drvdata->eddevid1 & EDDEVID1_PCSR_OFFSET_MASK;
> > >+
> > >+	return (pcsr_offset == EDDEVID1_PCSR_OFFSET_INS_SET);
> > >+}
> > >+
> > >+static unsigned long debug_adjust_pc(struct debug_drvdata *drvdata,
> > >+				     unsigned long pc)
> > >+{
> > >+	unsigned long arm_inst_offset = 0, thumb_inst_offset = 0;
> > >+
> > >+	if (debug_pc_has_offset(drvdata)) {
> > >+		arm_inst_offset = 8;
> > >+		thumb_inst_offset = 4;
> > >+	}
> > >+
> > >+	/* Handle thumb instruction */
> > >+	if (pc & EDPCSR_THUMB) {
> > >+		pc = (pc & EDPCSR_THUMB_INST_MASK) - thumb_inst_offset;
> > >+		return pc;
> > >+	}
> > >+
> > >+	/*
> > >+	 * Handle arm instruction offset, if the arm instruction
> > >+	 * is not 4 byte alignment then it's possible the case
> > >+	 * for implementation defined; keep original value for this
> > >+	 * case and print info for notice.
> > >+	 */
> > >+	if (pc & BIT(1))
> > >+		pr_emerg("Instruction offset is implementation defined\n");
> > 
> > I am struggling to find the any mention about this in the ARM ARM. Please could
> > you point me to it.
> 
> Sure, please see ARM DDI 0406C.b, chapter C11.11.34 "
> DBGPCSR, Program Counter Sampling Register":
> 
> A profiling tool can use the value of the T bit to calculate the
> instruction address as follows:
> 
> When an offset is applied to the sampled address
> - if T is 0 and DBGPCSR[1] is 0, ((DBGPCSR[31:2] << 2) - 8) is the
> address of the sampled ARM instruction
> - if T is 0 and DBGPCSR[1] is 1, the instruction address is
> IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED
> - if T is 1, ((DBGPCSR[31:1] << 1) - 4) is the address of the sampled
> Thumb or ThumbEE instruction.
> 
> When no offset is applied to the sampled address
> -  if T is 0 and DBGPCSR[1] is 0, (DBGPCSR[31:2] << 2) is the address
> of the sampled ARM instruction
> -  if T is 0 and DBGPCSR[1] is 1, the instruction address is
> IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED
> - if T is 1, (DBGPCSR[31:1] << 1) is the address of the sampled Thumb
> or ThumbEE instruction.
> 
> > >+static void debug_init_arch_data(void *info)
> > >+{
> > >+	struct debug_drvdata *drvdata = info;
> > >+	u32 mode;
> > >+
> > >+	CS_UNLOCK(drvdata->base);
> > >+
> > >+	debug_os_unlock(drvdata);
> > >+
> > >+	/* Read device info */
> > >+	drvdata->eddevid  = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDDEVID);
> > >+	drvdata->eddevid1 = readl_relaxed(drvdata->base + EDDEVID1);
> > >+
> > >+	/* Parse implementation feature */
> > >+	mode = drvdata->eddevid & EDDEVID_PCSAMPLE_MODE;
> > >+	if (mode == EDDEVID_IMPL_FULL) {
> > >+		drvdata->edpcsr_present  = true;
> > >+		drvdata->edvidsr_present = true;
> > >+	} else if (mode == EDDEVID_IMPL_EDPCSR_EDCIDSR) {
> > >+		drvdata->edpcsr_present  = true;
> > >+		drvdata->edvidsr_present = false;
> > 
> > As discussed above, we need to consult the DEVID1:PCSROffset for AArch32 to decide
> > if we have the edpcsr implemented on ARMv8.
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> > >+	} else {
> > >+		drvdata->edpcsr_present  = false;
> > >+		drvdata->edvidsr_present = false;
> > >+	}
> > >+
> > >+	CS_LOCK(drvdata->base);
> > >+}
> > >+
> > >+static int debug_probe(struct amba_device *adev, const struct amba_id *id)
> > >+{
> > >+	void __iomem *base;
> > >+	struct device *dev = &adev->dev;
> > >+	struct debug_drvdata *drvdata;
> > >+	struct resource *res = &adev->res;
> > >+	struct device_node *np = adev->dev.of_node;
> > >+	char buf[32];
> > >+	static int debug_count;
> > >+
> > >+	drvdata = devm_kzalloc(dev, sizeof(*drvdata), GFP_KERNEL);
> > >+	if (!drvdata)
> > >+		return -ENOMEM;
> > >+
> > >+	drvdata->cpu = np ? of_coresight_get_cpu(np) : 0;
> > >+	drvdata->dev = &adev->dev;
> > >+
> > >+	dev_set_drvdata(dev, drvdata);
> > >+
> > >+	/* Validity for the resource is already checked by the AMBA core */
> > >+	base = devm_ioremap_resource(dev, res);
> > >+	if (IS_ERR(base))
> > >+		return PTR_ERR(base);
> > >+
> > >+	drvdata->base = base;
> > >+
> > >+	get_online_cpus();
> > >+	per_cpu(debug_drvdata, drvdata->cpu) = drvdata;
> > >+
> > >+	if (smp_call_function_single(drvdata->cpu,
> > >+				debug_init_arch_data, drvdata, 1))
> > >+		dev_err(dev, "Debug arch init failed\n");
> > 
> > If this fails (say the CPU was offline), should we still return success ?
> > And may be we should check if the drvdata->edpcsr_present to detect if the CPU
> > implements the PC Sampling and return failure here if it doesn't.
> 
> Will fix.
> 
> > >+
> > >+	put_online_cpus();
> > >+
> > >+	if (!debug_count++)
> > >+		atomic_notifier_chain_register(&panic_notifier_list,
> > >+					       &debug_notifier);
> > >+
> > 
> > >+	sprintf(buf, (char *)id->data, drvdata->cpu);
> > >+	dev_info(dev, "%s initialized\n", buf);
> > 
> > This could simply be :
> > 	dev_info(dev, "Coresight debug-CPU%d initialized\n", drvdata->cpu);
> > 
> > and get rid of the static string and the buffer, see below.
> > 
> > >+	return 0;
> > >+}
> > >+
> > >+static struct amba_id debug_ids[] = {
> > >+	{       /* Debug for Cortex-A53 */
> > >+		.id	= 0x000bbd03,
> > >+		.mask	= 0x000fffff,
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > >+		.data   = "Coresight debug-CPU%d",
> > 
> > I think this is pointless, as the debug area we are interested in is always associated
> > with a CPU, we could as well figure out what to print from the drvdata->cpu above.
> 
> I prefer to follow your suggestion for upper two comments; but I'd like
> check with Mathieu, due I followed up Mathieu's suggestion to write
> current code.

The end result is the same - I'm good either way.

Thanks,
Mathieu

> 
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan

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#1605743 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Date2017-03-21 16:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnucO-5iR-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1591908

On 03/03/17 06:00, Leo Yan wrote:
> Coresight includes debug module and usually the module connects with CPU
> debug logic. ARMv8 architecture reference manual (ARM DDI 0487A.k) has
> description for related info in "Part H: External Debug".
> 
> Chapter H7 "The Sample-based Profiling Extension" introduces several
> sampling registers, e.g. we can check program counter value with
> combined CPU exception level, secure state, etc. So this is helpful for
> analysis CPU lockup scenarios, e.g. if one CPU has run into infinite
> loop with IRQ disabled. In this case the CPU cannot switch context and
> handle any interrupt (including IPIs), as the result it cannot handle
> SMP call for stack dump.
> 
> This patch is to enable coresight debug module, so firstly this driver
> is to bind apb clock for debug module and this is to ensure the debug
> module can be accessed from program or external debugger. And the driver
> uses sample-based registers for debug purpose, e.g. when system detects
> the CPU lockup and trigger panic, the driver will dump program counter
> and combined context registers (EDCIDSR, EDVIDSR); by parsing context
> registers so can quickly get to know CPU secure state, exception level,
> etc.
> 
> Some of the debug module registers are located in CPU power domain, so
> in the driver it has checked the power state for CPU before accessing
> registers within CPU power domain. For most safe way to use this driver,
> it's suggested to disable CPU low power states, this can simply set
> "nohlt" in kernel command line.
> 

I disagree with this approach. One of the main usefulness of such self
hosted debug feature is to debug issues around features like cpuidle.
Adding constraints like "cpuidle needs to be disabled" is not good IMO.
There are ways to make it work with cpuidle enabled. Please explore
them. In particular refer H9.2.39 EDPRCR, External Debug Power/Reset
Control Register.

So, "nohlt" option is not an option. I prefer some sysfs option like
Suzuki suggested to enable this feature on demand if power saving in
normal usecase is the concern. Using "nohlt" just disables idle and
doesn't ensure the debug power domain is ON. Using the flag directly in
this driver to enable debug power domain also sounds misuse of that flag
for me.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

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#1606547 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Date2017-03-22 15:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnPhg-3Fu-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1605743

On 22/03/17 12:54, Mike Leach wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21 March 2017 at 15:39, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com 
> <mailto:sudeep.holla@arm.com>> wrote:
> 
[...]

> I disagree with this approach. One of the main usefulness of such
> self hosted debug feature is to debug issues around features like
> cpuidle. Adding constraints like "cpuidle needs to be disabled" is
> not good IMO. There are ways to make it work with cpuidle enabled.
> Please explore them. In particular refer H9.2.39 EDPRCR, External
> Debug Power/Reset Control Register.
> 
> So, "nohlt" option is not an option. I prefer some sysfs option like 
> Suzuki suggested to enable this feature on demand if power saving in 
> normal usecase is the concern. Using "nohlt" just disables idle and 
> doesn't ensure the debug power domain is ON. Using the flag directly
> in this driver to enable debug power domain also sounds misuse of
> that flag for me.
> 
> I think the key issue to remember here is that experience with
> external debug shows that CPU Idle means different things to
> different SoC designs / power management schemes. (and we are using
> external debug in a self hosted way here).
> 

Yes agreed on the point that meaning of "cpuidle" differs on each SoC.

> Some designs will power down an entire cluster if all CPUs on the 
> cluster are powered down - including the parts of the debug
> registers that should remain powered in the debug power domain.

Interesting, at-least ETMv4 or some other coresight specification
clearly classify the power domains and the register access. The actual
power domain itself may vary depending on implementation.

> The bits in EDPRCR are not respected in these cases - these designs
> do not really support debug over power down in the way that the
> CoreSight / Debug designers anticipated. This means that even
> checking EDPRSR has the potential to cause a bus hang if the target
> register is unpowered. (and if the debug power domain is unpowered
> then the PC data is also lost).
> 

Agreed, but can we start supporting the sane designs in sane way first.
We can always add compatible and handle deviations. I agree we may need
to support such deviations but starting with that seems setting a bad
example.

> In these cases, accessing to the debug registers while they are not 
> powered is a recipe for disaster - so preventing CPUIdle ​and the
> subsequent cluster power down ​ allows investigation on this class of
> system - ​and allowing the CPUs of interest be interrogated without
> hanging the crash log process.​
> 

Agreed. But my point is that many issues are around cpuidle and some
usecase and just eliminating that use-case sounds bad. For me,
core-sight was most useful to debug issues around cpu power management
and lockups where we can't stop cores but examine these registers.
There are other alternatives for other use-cases IMO.

> 
> ​On systems that do behave correctly with respect to debug power 
> domains, then disabling CPUIdle is unnecessary - these can be
> controlled by ​EDPRCR - perhaps; per the specification it is
> "implementation defined" if writing bits to this register have an
> effect on the system anyway even if the debug domain is correctly
> powered.
> 

We can always do that unconditionally. If implementations don't honor
those bits, it's different. If they hang on accessing something which is
on debug power domain and not on core power domain, then you have much
bigger issue to solve. How can you even trust and make any other
register accesses that are in debug power domain then ?

> ​While it is true to say that disabling CPUIdle does not guarantee
> that the debug power domain is on, it does in a certain class of
> designs prevent it being powered off (Juno historically - not sure if
> that is still the case.).
> 

Again it's completely platform specific. All you need to care is that
the debug power domain is on or not. Disabling CPUIdle to achieve that
is simply wrong and may work only on few platforms.

> However, I do agree that the use of the driver should not be
> triggered _only_ on the existence of /nohlt on the command line - ​
> there is a class of designs where this will not be required.
> 

Thanks

> When enabing the driver as a kernel config the user needs to
> decide:- 1) do I need this to debug the issue I am seeing 2) does the
> power management on my system require I use /nohlt as well.

Please don't *misuse* nohlt to disable idle. There are other ways to
do the same either from the user-space or from the driver.

> 
> I think that the use of /nohlt as an option, and the reasons why it 
> might be needed should be part of the configuration help in this
> case.
> 
> There is also a case for considering if there should be an option to 
> configure it to be enabled or disabled at boot time. It is easy to 
> imagine cases I want to have this running from the start as a crash 
> happens early - and cases I can enable it on demand later.
> 

Also consider with cpuidle enabled ;). I can help testing if needed.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

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#1606698 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromMike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-22 17:00 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnQQ3-4OP-59@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606547
On 22 March 2017 at 14:07, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 22/03/17 12:54, Mike Leach wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 21 March 2017 at 15:39, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com
>> <mailto:sudeep.holla@arm.com>> wrote:
>>
> [...]
>
>> I disagree with this approach. One of the main usefulness of such
>> self hosted debug feature is to debug issues around features like
>> cpuidle. Adding constraints like "cpuidle needs to be disabled" is
>> not good IMO. There are ways to make it work with cpuidle enabled.
>> Please explore them. In particular refer H9.2.39 EDPRCR, External
>> Debug Power/Reset Control Register.
>>
>> So, "nohlt" option is not an option. I prefer some sysfs option like
>> Suzuki suggested to enable this feature on demand if power saving in
>> normal usecase is the concern. Using "nohlt" just disables idle and
>> doesn't ensure the debug power domain is ON. Using the flag directly
>> in this driver to enable debug power domain also sounds misuse of
>> that flag for me.
>>
>> I think the key issue to remember here is that experience with
>> external debug shows that CPU Idle means different things to
>> different SoC designs / power management schemes. (and we are using
>> external debug in a self hosted way here).
>>
>
> Yes agreed on the point that meaning of "cpuidle" differs on each SoC.
>
>> Some designs will power down an entire cluster if all CPUs on the
>> cluster are powered down - including the parts of the debug
>> registers that should remain powered in the debug power domain.
>
> Interesting, at-least ETMv4 or some other coresight specification
> clearly classify the power domains and the register access. The actual
> power domain itself may vary depending on implementation.

Yes - the ETMv4 spec defines what should be in the core / debug power
domains, but there is no architectural requirement for these to be
separate.
Most of power management is "implementation defined", & hw designers
seem to have different criteria than sw engineers wanting to debug
stuff.

>
>> The bits in EDPRCR are not respected in these cases - these designs
>> do not really support debug over power down in the way that the
>> CoreSight / Debug designers anticipated. This means that even
>> checking EDPRSR has the potential to cause a bus hang if the target
>> register is unpowered. (and if the debug power domain is unpowered
>> then the PC data is also lost).
>>
>
> Agreed, but can we start supporting the sane designs in sane way first.
> We can always add compatible and handle deviations. I agree we may need
> to support such deviations but starting with that seems setting a bad
> example.
>

From a pragmatic point of view, we have to support the designs that we
have and are currently using.
Sadly this might include some that do not behave in an ideal way.

I'm not saying disabling CPUIdle is right for all cases, or perhaps
many, but it has in the past been useful in specific instances - not
just for external debug, but to use CoreSight trace etc, were powering
down the a CPU / cluster takes out ETM accesses and breaks stuff.

The key is that to use this driver, the user has to be aware of the PM
implications on their specific system - the kernel may not take care
of it all for them - as SCP type power controllers are often external
and may have unique firmware and capabilites.

Historically CPUIdle disable has been used as a blunt instrument to
handle power management problems in real debug use cases - but it is
one that has been successful. Where there are better methods then I am
all for using these.


>> In these cases, accessing to the debug registers while they are not
>> powered is a recipe for disaster - so preventing CPUIdle and the
>> subsequent cluster power down allows investigation on this class of
>> system - and allowing the CPUs of interest be interrogated without
>> hanging the crash log process.
>>
>
> Agreed. But my point is that many issues are around cpuidle and some
> usecase and just eliminating that use-case sounds bad. For me,
> core-sight was most useful to debug issues around cpu power management
> and lockups where we can't stop cores but examine these registers.
> There are other alternatives for other use-cases IMO.

For your case, removing what you are interested in debugging is
evidently counter productive, so other techniques need to be used to
ensure the CS regs remain alive.
But equally there could be use cases where this might be just fine or
even the only way.

>
>>
>> On systems that do behave correctly with respect to debug power
>> domains, then disabling CPUIdle is unnecessary - these can be
>> controlled by EDPRCR - perhaps; per the specification it is
>> "implementation defined" if writing bits to this register have an
>> effect on the system anyway even if the debug domain is correctly
>> powered.
>>
>
> We can always do that unconditionally. If implementations don't honor
> those bits, it's different. If they hang on accessing something which is
> on debug power domain and not on core power domain, then you have much
> bigger issue to solve. How can you even trust and make any other
> register accesses that are in debug power domain then ?
>

It is difficult and highly platform dependent. For external debug we
might have per-platform rules built into the debugger on what can and
cannot be done and when, plus on occasion some power management
scripts. Those platforms that get closest to the "standard" CoreSight
power management are easiest to debug.

>> While it is true to say that disabling CPUIdle does not guarantee
>> that the debug power domain is on, it does in a certain class of
>> designs prevent it being powered off (Juno historically - not sure if
>> that is still the case.).
>>
>
> Again it's completely platform specific. All you need to care is that
> the debug power domain is on or not. Disabling CPUIdle to achieve that
> is simply wrong and may work only on few platforms.
>
>> However, I do agree that the use of the driver should not be
>> triggered _only_ on the existence of /nohlt on the command line -
>> there is a class of designs where this will not be required.
>>
>
> Thanks
>
>> When enabing the driver as a kernel config the user needs to
>> decide:- 1) do I need this to debug the issue I am seeing 2) does the
>> power management on my system require I use /nohlt as well.
>
> Please don't *misuse* nohlt to disable idle. There are other ways to
> do the same either from the user-space or from the driver.

I'm not advocating /nohlt above anything else - it's just what is
being discussed here. Furthermore, no one debug technique is ever
going to be appropriate in all circumstances - debug and trace are
always a compromise.

I initially raised the issue of clusters powering down, and
possibility that no CPUIdle might prevent this, to ensure that
awareness is built in to driver / config / help text /documentation
that these are real issues seen in the external debug world.

The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that the
power management has to be considered on a platform specific basis
before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be needed for it
to work correctly. Without this then the driver could cause more
issues than it debugs. A user selecting this _must_ be told about
these issues

>
>>
>> I think that the use of /nohlt as an option, and the reasons why it
>> might be needed should be part of the configuration help in this
>> case.
>>
>> There is also a case for considering if there should be an option to
>> configure it to be enabled or disabled at boot time. It is easy to
>> imagine cases I want to have this running from the start as a crash
>> happens early - and cases I can enable it on demand later.
>>
>
> Also consider with cpuidle enabled ;). I can help testing if needed.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Sudeep

Regards

Mike

-- 
Mike Leach
Principal Engineer, ARM Ltd.
Blackburn Design Centre. UK

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#1606714 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Date2017-03-22 17:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnR9o-5eZ-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606698

On 22/03/17 15:45, Mike Leach wrote:
> On 22 March 2017 at 14:07, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 22/03/17 12:54, Mike Leach wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 March 2017 at 15:39, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com
>>> <mailto:sudeep.holla@arm.com>> wrote:
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> I disagree with this approach. One of the main usefulness of such
>>> self hosted debug feature is to debug issues around features like
>>> cpuidle. Adding constraints like "cpuidle needs to be disabled" is
>>> not good IMO. There are ways to make it work with cpuidle enabled.
>>> Please explore them. In particular refer H9.2.39 EDPRCR, External
>>> Debug Power/Reset Control Register.
>>>
>>> So, "nohlt" option is not an option. I prefer some sysfs option like
>>> Suzuki suggested to enable this feature on demand if power saving in
>>> normal usecase is the concern. Using "nohlt" just disables idle and
>>> doesn't ensure the debug power domain is ON. Using the flag directly
>>> in this driver to enable debug power domain also sounds misuse of
>>> that flag for me.
>>>
>>> I think the key issue to remember here is that experience with
>>> external debug shows that CPU Idle means different things to
>>> different SoC designs / power management schemes. (and we are using
>>> external debug in a self hosted way here).
>>>
>>
>> Yes agreed on the point that meaning of "cpuidle" differs on each SoC.
>>
>>> Some designs will power down an entire cluster if all CPUs on the
>>> cluster are powered down - including the parts of the debug
>>> registers that should remain powered in the debug power domain.
>>
>> Interesting, at-least ETMv4 or some other coresight specification
>> clearly classify the power domains and the register access. The actual
>> power domain itself may vary depending on implementation.
> 
> Yes - the ETMv4 spec defines what should be in the core / debug power
> domains, but there is no architectural requirement for these to be
> separate.
> Most of power management is "implementation defined", & hw designers
> seem to have different criteria than sw engineers wanting to debug
> stuff.
> 

Yes I agree, no argument there.

>>> The bits in EDPRCR are not respected in these cases - these designs
>>> do not really support debug over power down in the way that the
>>> CoreSight / Debug designers anticipated. This means that even
>>> checking EDPRSR has the potential to cause a bus hang if the target
>>> register is unpowered. (and if the debug power domain is unpowered
>>> then the PC data is also lost).
>>>
>>
>> Agreed, but can we start supporting the sane designs in sane way first.
>> We can always add compatible and handle deviations. I agree we may need
>> to support such deviations but starting with that seems setting a bad
>> example.
>>
> 
> From a pragmatic point of view, we have to support the designs that we
> have and are currently using.
> Sadly this might include some that do not behave in an ideal way.
> 

We will have to support them. But I don't want that to be defacto
standard. They should be treated as deviations. Though specification
says the behavior is IMPDEF, it does provide standard interface(EDPRCR)
to use and we should have that in the driver IMO.

> I'm not saying disabling CPUIdle is right for all cases, or perhaps
> many, but it has in the past been useful in specific instances - not
> just for external debug, 

Yes I know but that's either issue with the firmware or the debugger
and we can work them around in user-space too instead of baking the
solution to kernel.

> but to use CoreSight trace etc, were powering
> down the a CPU / cluster takes out ETM accesses and breaks stuff.
> 

FYI, I added support in ETMv4 to emulate power-down during active trace
session and so far I have not seen any report on things breaking because
of that register access(may be no one has tested it on other platforms
yet :()

> The key is that to use this driver, the user has to be aware of the PM
> implications on their specific system - the kernel may not take care
> of it all for them - as SCP type power controllers are often external
> and may have unique firmware and capabilites.
> 

Sure

> Historically CPUIdle disable has been used as a blunt instrument to
> handle power management problems in real debug use cases - but it is
> one that has been successful. Where there are better methods then I am
> all for using these.
> 

Cool, thanks. Lets try out that and see if it helps first before bluntly
advertising CPUIdle disabling and that too in misleading ways like "nohlt"

>>> In these cases, accessing to the debug registers while they are not
>>> powered is a recipe for disaster - so preventing CPUIdle and the
>>> subsequent cluster power down allows investigation on this class of
>>> system - and allowing the CPUs of interest be interrogated without
>>> hanging the crash log process.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed. But my point is that many issues are around cpuidle and some
>> usecase and just eliminating that use-case sounds bad. For me,
>> core-sight was most useful to debug issues around cpu power management
>> and lockups where we can't stop cores but examine these registers.
>> There are other alternatives for other use-cases IMO.
> 
> For your case, removing what you are interested in debugging is
> evidently counter productive, so other techniques need to be used to
> ensure the CS regs remain alive.
> But equally there could be use cases where this might be just fine or
> even the only way.
>

Again not arguing on that. Just saying we can try out if that solves the
issue. As I said there are other ways to disable idle and we can
advertise those instead of such misuse. Also those alternative methods
are runtime and can be used when you need them.

>>>
>>> On systems that do behave correctly with respect to debug power
>>> domains, then disabling CPUIdle is unnecessary - these can be
>>> controlled by EDPRCR - perhaps; per the specification it is
>>> "implementation defined" if writing bits to this register have an
>>> effect on the system anyway even if the debug domain is correctly
>>> powered.
>>>
>>
>> We can always do that unconditionally. If implementations don't honor
>> those bits, it's different. If they hang on accessing something which is
>> on debug power domain and not on core power domain, then you have much
>> bigger issue to solve. How can you even trust and make any other
>> register accesses that are in debug power domain then ?
>>
> 
> It is difficult and highly platform dependent. For external debug we
> might have per-platform rules built into the debugger on what can and
> cannot be done and when, plus on occasion some power management
> scripts. Those platforms that get closest to the "standard" CoreSight
> power management are easiest to debug.
> 

Absolutely, so just mandating might just solve issue *accidentally*
not *intentionally*. So I don't want it to be advertised in that way
and that becomes defacto.

[...]
> 
> I'm not advocating /nohlt above anything else - it's just what is
> being discussed here. Furthermore, no one debug technique is ever
> going to be appropriate in all circumstances - debug and trace are
> always a compromise.
> 

True.

> I initially raised the issue of clusters powering down, and
> possibility that no CPUIdle might prevent this, to ensure that
> awareness is built in to driver / config / help text /documentation
> that these are real issues seen in the external debug world.
> 

Point taken. So we could just specify that all necessary power domains
need to be on for proper functionality for this feature and that it's
highly platform specific instead of mixing cpu/cluster idle details here.

> The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that the
> power management has to be considered on a platform specific basis
> before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be needed for it
> to work correctly. Without this then the driver could cause more
> issues than it debugs. A user selecting this _must_ be told about
> these issues
> 

Exactly and the help text could be something on the similar lines as you
mention/summarize above.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

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#1606795 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSuzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>
Date2017-03-22 18:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnSf7-5Zo-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606714
On 22/03/17 16:17, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>
>
> On 22/03/17 15:45, Mike Leach wrote:
>> On 22 March 2017 at 14:07, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/03/17 12:54, Mike Leach wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21 March 2017 at 15:39, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com
>>>> <mailto:sudeep.holla@arm.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> I disagree with this approach. One of the main usefulness of such
>>>> self hosted debug feature is to debug issues around features like
>>>> cpuidle. Adding constraints like "cpuidle needs to be disabled" is
>>>> not good IMO. There are ways to make it work with cpuidle enabled.
>>>> Please explore them. In particular refer H9.2.39 EDPRCR, External
>>>> Debug Power/Reset Control Register.
>>>>
>>>> So, "nohlt" option is not an option. I prefer some sysfs option like
>>>> Suzuki suggested to enable this feature on demand if power saving in
>>>> normal usecase is the concern. Using "nohlt" just disables idle and
>>>> doesn't ensure the debug power domain is ON. Using the flag directly
>>>> in this driver to enable debug power domain also sounds misuse of
>>>> that flag for me.
>>>>
>>>> I think the key issue to remember here is that experience with
>>>> external debug shows that CPU Idle means different things to
>>>> different SoC designs / power management schemes. (and we are using
>>>> external debug in a self hosted way here).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes agreed on the point that meaning of "cpuidle" differs on each SoC.
>>>
>>>> Some designs will power down an entire cluster if all CPUs on the
>>>> cluster are powered down - including the parts of the debug
>>>> registers that should remain powered in the debug power domain.
>>>
>>> Interesting, at-least ETMv4 or some other coresight specification
>>> clearly classify the power domains and the register access. The actual
>>> power domain itself may vary depending on implementation.
>>
>> Yes - the ETMv4 spec defines what should be in the core / debug power
>> domains, but there is no architectural requirement for these to be
>> separate.
>> Most of power management is "implementation defined", & hw designers
>> seem to have different criteria than sw engineers wanting to debug
>> stuff.
>>
>
> Yes I agree, no argument there.
>
>>>> The bits in EDPRCR are not respected in these cases - these designs
>>>> do not really support debug over power down in the way that the
>>>> CoreSight / Debug designers anticipated. This means that even
>>>> checking EDPRSR has the potential to cause a bus hang if the target
>>>> register is unpowered. (and if the debug power domain is unpowered
>>>> then the PC data is also lost).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, but can we start supporting the sane designs in sane way first.
>>> We can always add compatible and handle deviations. I agree we may need
>>> to support such deviations but starting with that seems setting a bad
>>> example.
>>>
>>
>> From a pragmatic point of view, we have to support the designs that we
>> have and are currently using.
>> Sadly this might include some that do not behave in an ideal way.
>>
>
> We will have to support them. But I don't want that to be defacto
> standard. They should be treated as deviations. Though specification
> says the behavior is IMPDEF, it does provide standard interface(EDPRCR)
> to use and we should have that in the driver IMO.
>
>> I'm not saying disabling CPUIdle is right for all cases, or perhaps
>> many, but it has in the past been useful in specific instances - not
>> just for external debug,
>
> Yes I know but that's either issue with the firmware or the debugger
> and we can work them around in user-space too instead of baking the
> solution to kernel.
>
>> but to use CoreSight trace etc, were powering
>> down the a CPU / cluster takes out ETM accesses and breaks stuff.
>>
>
> FYI, I added support in ETMv4 to emulate power-down during active trace
> session and so far I have not seen any report on things breaking because
> of that register access(may be no one has tested it on other platforms
> yet :()
>
>> The key is that to use this driver, the user has to be aware of the PM
>> implications on their specific system - the kernel may not take care
>> of it all for them - as SCP type power controllers are often external
>> and may have unique firmware and capabilites.
>>
>
> Sure
>
>> Historically CPUIdle disable has been used as a blunt instrument to
>> handle power management problems in real debug use cases - but it is
>> one that has been successful. Where there are better methods then I am
>> all for using these.
>>
>
> Cool, thanks. Lets try out that and see if it helps first before bluntly
> advertising CPUIdle disabling and that too in misleading ways like "nohlt"
>
>>>> In these cases, accessing to the debug registers while they are not
>>>> powered is a recipe for disaster - so preventing CPUIdle and the
>>>> subsequent cluster power down allows investigation on this class of
>>>> system - and allowing the CPUs of interest be interrogated without
>>>> hanging the crash log process.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed. But my point is that many issues are around cpuidle and some
>>> usecase and just eliminating that use-case sounds bad. For me,
>>> core-sight was most useful to debug issues around cpu power management
>>> and lockups where we can't stop cores but examine these registers.
>>> There are other alternatives for other use-cases IMO.
>>
>> For your case, removing what you are interested in debugging is
>> evidently counter productive, so other techniques need to be used to
>> ensure the CS regs remain alive.
>> But equally there could be use cases where this might be just fine or
>> even the only way.
>>
>
> Again not arguing on that. Just saying we can try out if that solves the
> issue. As I said there are other ways to disable idle and we can
> advertise those instead of such misuse. Also those alternative methods
> are runtime and can be used when you need them.
>
>>>>
>>>> On systems that do behave correctly with respect to debug power
>>>> domains, then disabling CPUIdle is unnecessary - these can be
>>>> controlled by EDPRCR - perhaps; per the specification it is
>>>> "implementation defined" if writing bits to this register have an
>>>> effect on the system anyway even if the debug domain is correctly
>>>> powered.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We can always do that unconditionally. If implementations don't honor
>>> those bits, it's different. If they hang on accessing something which is
>>> on debug power domain and not on core power domain, then you have much
>>> bigger issue to solve. How can you even trust and make any other
>>> register accesses that are in debug power domain then ?
>>>
>>
>> It is difficult and highly platform dependent. For external debug we
>> might have per-platform rules built into the debugger on what can and
>> cannot be done and when, plus on occasion some power management
>> scripts. Those platforms that get closest to the "standard" CoreSight
>> power management are easiest to debug.
>>
>
> Absolutely, so just mandating might just solve issue *accidentally*
> not *intentionally*. So I don't want it to be advertised in that way
> and that becomes defacto.
>
> [...]
>>
>> I'm not advocating /nohlt above anything else - it's just what is
>> being discussed here. Furthermore, no one debug technique is ever
>> going to be appropriate in all circumstances - debug and trace are
>> always a compromise.
>>
>
> True.
>
>> I initially raised the issue of clusters powering down, and
>> possibility that no CPUIdle might prevent this, to ensure that
>> awareness is built in to driver / config / help text /documentation
>> that these are real issues seen in the external debug world.
>>
>
> Point taken. So we could just specify that all necessary power domains
> need to be on for proper functionality for this feature and that it's
> highly platform specific instead of mixing cpu/cluster idle details here.
>
>> The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that the
>> power management has to be considered on a platform specific basis
>> before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be needed for it
>> to work correctly. Without this then the driver could cause more
>> issues than it debugs. A user selecting this _must_ be told about
>> these issues
>>

So given all the possible caveats, I think we :

1) Shouldn't enable the driver by default at runtime even if it is built-in.
2) Should provide mechanisms to turn it on at boot (via kernel commandline)
    or anytime later (via sysfs), which kind of puts the responsibility back on
    the user : "You know what you are doing".
3) Shouldn't turn the driver on based on "nohlt" which the user could use it for
    some other purposes, without explicit intention of turning this driver on).
4) Should document the fact that, on some platforms, the user may have to disable
    CPUidle explicitly to get the driver working. But let us not make it the default.
    The user with a not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working.

Suzuki
    

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#1606807 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Date2017-03-22 18:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnSoO-63J-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606795

On 22/03/17 17:09, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> On 22/03/17 16:17, Sudeep Holla wrote:

[...]

>> 
>> Point taken. So we could just specify that all necessary power
>> domains need to be on for proper functionality for this feature and
>> that it's highly platform specific instead of mixing cpu/cluster
>> idle details here.
>> 
>>> The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that
>>> the power management has to be considered on a platform specific
>>> basis before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be
>>> needed for it to work correctly. Without this then the driver
>>> could cause more issues than it debugs. A user selecting this
>>> _must_ be told about these issues
>>> 
> 
> So given all the possible caveats, I think we :
> 
> 1) Shouldn't enable the driver by default at runtime even if it is 
> built-in. 
> 2) Should provide mechanisms to turn it on at boot (via
> kernel commandline) or anytime later (via sysfs), which kind of puts
> the responsibility back on the user : "You know what you are doing". 
> 3) Shouldn't turn the driver on based on "nohlt" which the user
> could use it for some other purposes, without explicit intention of
> turning this driver on).
> 4) Should document the fact that, on some
> platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to get the
> driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user with a
> not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working.
> 

Agreed on all points and well summarized.
I would like to highlight (3) and (4) as it needs to be well understood.

"nohlt" has a *different* meaning already, so using that in this
driver for something else is simple wrong as it affects the system in
unintended ways. And yes if user (mis)uses it to get things working,
it's fine but shouldn't be recommended way.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

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#1607190 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromLeo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-23 08:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<to5vJ-7s8-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606807
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 05:25:50PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22/03/17 17:09, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> > On 22/03/17 16:17, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >> 
> >> Point taken. So we could just specify that all necessary power
> >> domains need to be on for proper functionality for this feature and
> >> that it's highly platform specific instead of mixing cpu/cluster
> >> idle details here.
> >> 
> >>> The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that
> >>> the power management has to be considered on a platform specific
> >>> basis before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be
> >>> needed for it to work correctly. Without this then the driver
> >>> could cause more issues than it debugs. A user selecting this
> >>> _must_ be told about these issues
> >>> 
> > 
> > So given all the possible caveats, I think we :
> > 
> > 1) Shouldn't enable the driver by default at runtime even if it is 
> > built-in. 
> > 2) Should provide mechanisms to turn it on at boot (via
> > kernel commandline) or anytime later (via sysfs), which kind of puts
> > the responsibility back on the user : "You know what you are doing". 
> > 3) Shouldn't turn the driver on based on "nohlt" which the user
> > could use it for some other purposes, without explicit intention of
> > turning this driver on).
> > 4) Should document the fact that, on some
> > platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to get the
> > driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user with a
> > not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working.
> > 
> 
> Agreed on all points and well summarized.
> I would like to highlight (3) and (4) as it needs to be well understood.
> 
> "nohlt" has a *different* meaning already, so using that in this
> driver for something else is simple wrong as it affects the system in
> unintended ways. And yes if user (mis)uses it to get things working,
> it's fine but shouldn't be recommended way.

Understand this point.

I will try to use general way to constraint CPUIdle like other
drivers.

Thanks all for these good suggestions :)

Thanks,
Leo Yan

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#1607437 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromMike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-23 13:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<toa2m-28N-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1607190
Also agree with Suzuki's excellent summary.

A couple of notes on using EDPRCR....

The logic for this assuming a correctly implemented system should be
something like.....

if (prsr() == powered_down) { // if we are powered down request power up.
    sw_unlock()   // ensure that the sw lock register on the device is unlocked
    write(prcr(bit3=1))
    wait_with_timeout(prsr()==powered_up)   // must wait to see if the
system does power up - otherwise bad things happen!
    if(timed_out)
       fail("power up request for CPU N failed.")  // nothing to do
after this point though if a CPU can't be powered is should not be
included in the list to be checked on crash.
}
ensure_os_lock_unlocked()  // os lock has to be unlocked for bit 0 of
prcr to be writeable.
sw_unlock()   // ensure that the sw lock register on the device is unlocked
write(prcr(bit3=1 | bit0=1)) // the core is powered, set the
nopowerdown request bit so we don't lose it & emulate power down


I think that some of the above logic is already in the driver, so
needs to be adapted for the PRCR handling.


On the "bad" systems, the initial prsr check is likely to fail (crash
/ buslock) if the debug logic is not correctly powered. The user will
then have to use one or more of the PM mitigations previously
discussed that are appropriate for that specific platform and retry

Regards

Mike


On 23 March 2017 at 05:43, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 05:25:50PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 22/03/17 17:09, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> > On 22/03/17 16:17, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >>
>> >> Point taken. So we could just specify that all necessary power
>> >> domains need to be on for proper functionality for this feature and
>> >> that it's highly platform specific instead of mixing cpu/cluster
>> >> idle details here.
>> >>
>> >>> The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that
>> >>> the power management has to be considered on a platform specific
>> >>> basis before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be
>> >>> needed for it to work correctly. Without this then the driver
>> >>> could cause more issues than it debugs. A user selecting this
>> >>> _must_ be told about these issues
>> >>>
>> >
>> > So given all the possible caveats, I think we :
>> >
>> > 1) Shouldn't enable the driver by default at runtime even if it is
>> > built-in.
>> > 2) Should provide mechanisms to turn it on at boot (via
>> > kernel commandline) or anytime later (via sysfs), which kind of puts
>> > the responsibility back on the user : "You know what you are doing".
>> > 3) Shouldn't turn the driver on based on "nohlt" which the user
>> > could use it for some other purposes, without explicit intention of
>> > turning this driver on).
>> > 4) Should document the fact that, on some
>> > platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to get the
>> > driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user with a
>> > not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working.
>> >
>>
>> Agreed on all points and well summarized.
>> I would like to highlight (3) and (4) as it needs to be well understood.
>>
>> "nohlt" has a *different* meaning already, so using that in this
>> driver for something else is simple wrong as it affects the system in
>> unintended ways. And yes if user (mis)uses it to get things working,
>> it's fine but shouldn't be recommended way.
>
> Understand this point.
>
> I will try to use general way to constraint CPUIdle like other
> drivers.
>
> Thanks all for these good suggestions :)
>
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan



-- 
Mike Leach
Principal Engineer, ARM Ltd.
Blackburn Design Centre. UK

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#1606703 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromLeo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-22 17:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnQZH-586-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606547
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 02:07:47PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> On 22/03/17 12:54, Mike Leach wrote:
> > On 21 March 2017 at 15:39, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com 
> > <mailto:sudeep.holla@arm.com>> wrote:
> > 
> [...]
> 
> > I disagree with this approach. One of the main usefulness of such
> > self hosted debug feature is to debug issues around features like
> > cpuidle. Adding constraints like "cpuidle needs to be disabled" is
> > not good IMO. There are ways to make it work with cpuidle enabled.
> > Please explore them. In particular refer H9.2.39 EDPRCR, External
> > Debug Power/Reset Control Register.
> > 
> > So, "nohlt" option is not an option. I prefer some sysfs option like 
> > Suzuki suggested to enable this feature on demand if power saving in 
> > normal usecase is the concern. Using "nohlt" just disables idle and 
> > doesn't ensure the debug power domain is ON. Using the flag directly
> > in this driver to enable debug power domain also sounds misuse of
> > that flag for me.
> > 
> > I think the key issue to remember here is that experience with
> > external debug shows that CPU Idle means different things to
> > different SoC designs / power management schemes. (and we are using
> > external debug in a self hosted way here).
>
> Yes agreed on the point that meaning of "cpuidle" differs on each SoC.

Very appreciate for Mike's summary. It's shame for me this is one thing
I should do better :)

This good summary is quite important.

> > Some designs will power down an entire cluster if all CPUs on the 
> > cluster are powered down - including the parts of the debug
> > registers that should remain powered in the debug power domain.
> 
> Interesting, at-least ETMv4 or some other coresight specification
> clearly classify the power domains and the register access. The actual
> power domain itself may vary depending on implementation.
> 
> > The bits in EDPRCR are not respected in these cases - these designs
> > do not really support debug over power down in the way that the
> > CoreSight / Debug designers anticipated. This means that even
> > checking EDPRSR has the potential to cause a bus hang if the target
> > register is unpowered. (and if the debug power domain is unpowered
> > then the PC data is also lost).
> > 
> 
> Agreed, but can we start supporting the sane designs in sane way first.
> We can always add compatible and handle deviations. I agree we may need
> to support such deviations but starting with that seems setting a bad
> example.
> 
> > In these cases, accessing to the debug registers while they are not 
> > powered is a recipe for disaster - so preventing CPUIdle ​and the
> > subsequent cluster power down ​ allows investigation on this class of
> > system - ​and allowing the CPUs of interest be interrogated without
> > hanging the crash log process.​
> > 
> 
> Agreed. But my point is that many issues are around cpuidle and some
> usecase and just eliminating that use-case sounds bad. For me,
> core-sight was most useful to debug issues around cpu power management
> and lockups where we can't stop cores but examine these registers.
> There are other alternatives for other use-cases IMO.
> 
> > 
> > ​On systems that do behave correctly with respect to debug power 
> > domains, then disabling CPUIdle is unnecessary - these can be
> > controlled by ​EDPRCR - perhaps; per the specification it is
> > "implementation defined" if writing bits to this register have an
> > effect on the system anyway even if the debug domain is correctly
> > powered.
> > 
> 
> We can always do that unconditionally. If implementations don't honor
> those bits, it's different. If they hang on accessing something which is
> on debug power domain and not on core power domain, then you have much
> bigger issue to solve. How can you even trust and make any other
> register accesses that are in debug power domain then ?

So we can add below code before really access another other registers
are possible in CPU power domain:

        /*
         * Force to power on CPU power domain and assert
         * DBGPWRUPREQ signal
         */
        val = readl(drvdata->base + EDPRCR);
        val |= BIT(3);
        writel(val, drvdata->base + EDPRCR);

> > ​While it is true to say that disabling CPUIdle does not guarantee
> > that the debug power domain is on, it does in a certain class of
> > designs prevent it being powered off (Juno historically - not sure if
> > that is still the case.).
> > 
> 
> Again it's completely platform specific. All you need to care is that
> the debug power domain is on or not. Disabling CPUIdle to achieve that
> is simply wrong and may work only on few platforms.
> 
> > However, I do agree that the use of the driver should not be
> > triggered _only_ on the existence of /nohlt on the command line - ​
> > there is a class of designs where this will not be required.
> > 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> > When enabing the driver as a kernel config the user needs to
> > decide:- 1) do I need this to debug the issue I am seeing 2) does the
> > power management on my system require I use /nohlt as well.
> 
> Please don't *misuse* nohlt to disable idle. There are other ways to
> do the same either from the user-space or from the driver.
> 
> > 
> > I think that the use of /nohlt as an option, and the reasons why it 
> > might be needed should be part of the configuration help in this
> > case.
> > 
> > There is also a case for considering if there should be an option to 
> > configure it to be enabled or disabled at boot time. It is easy to 
> > imagine cases I want to have this running from the start as a crash 
> > happens early - and cases I can enable it on demand later.
> > 
> 
> Also consider with cpuidle enabled ;). I can help testing if needed.

I tried to digest these info and below are my understanding from your
suggestion:

### For boot time: add two command line flags

- coresight.cpu_debug: this flag is used to enable cpu debug module at
  boot time, and it relys on sane hardware design (like PRCR can works
  well) to access registers;

- coresight.cpu_debug_pwrup: this flag is used to enable cpu debug
  module at boot time, and it cannot relys on PRCR anymore so we need
  manually constraint CPU power states;

### For runtime: use one sysfs node

- Create sysfs node:
  /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug

  echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug: same
  functionality with boot time's 'coresight.cpu_debug';

  echo 2 > /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug: same
  functionality with boot time's 'coresight.cpu_debug_pwrup';

  echo 0 > /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug: disable
  debug functionality.

Does this make sense?

Thanks,
Leo Yan

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#1606773 — Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module

FromSudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Date2017-03-22 18:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Message-ID<tnRVN-5RD-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606703

On 22/03/17 16:01, Leo Yan wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 02:07:47PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:

[...]

>>
>> We can always do that unconditionally. If implementations don't honor
>> those bits, it's different. If they hang on accessing something which is
>> on debug power domain and not on core power domain, then you have much
>> bigger issue to solve. How can you even trust and make any other
>> register accesses that are in debug power domain then ?
> 
> So we can add below code before really access another other registers
> are possible in CPU power domain:
> 
>         /*
>          * Force to power on CPU power domain and assert
>          * DBGPWRUPREQ signal
>          */
>         val = readl(drvdata->base + EDPRCR);
>         val |= BIT(3);
>         writel(val, drvdata->base + EDPRCR);
> 

Yes worth trying it out.

[...]

> 
> I tried to digest these info and below are my understanding from your
> suggestion:
> 
> ### For boot time: add two command line flags
> 

I am not really sure about boot flags as there are dependency on power
domains and expecting them to be powered on quite earlier is too much to
ask. I am not sure if we need special case for boot time. But that's
just my opinion. If someone has found it *really* useful and no other
alternative exists, then go for it.

[...]

> ### For runtime: use one sysfs node
> 
> - Create sysfs node:
>   /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug
> 
>   echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug: same
>   functionality with boot time's 'coresight.cpu_debug';
> 

My argument was this to be default without any need for flags.
We can skip it as and when we find broken implementation if required.

>   echo 2 > /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug: same
>   functionality with boot time's 'coresight.cpu_debug_pwrup';
> 
>   echo 0 > /sys/kernel/debug/coresight_cpu_debug/enable_debug: disable
>   debug functionality.
>

So it can be simple boolean to force setup the power domain requirements
for it to work whenever you need to activate it. I may be missing some
use-case, but IIUC simple boolean flag should be fine as suggested
initially.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

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#1592219 — [PATCH v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for debug module

FromLeo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Date2017-03-03 19:50 +0100
Subject[PATCH v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for debug module
Message-ID<th0r9-5c2-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1591705
According to ARMv8 architecture reference manual (ARM DDI 0487A.k)
Chapter 'Part H: External debug', the CPU can integrate debug module
and it can support self-hosted debug and external debug. Especially
for supporting self-hosted debug, this means the program can access
the debug module from mmio region; and usually the mmio region is
integrated with coresight.

So add document for binding debug component, includes binding to APB
clock; and also need specify the CPU node which the debug module is
dedicated to specific CPU.

Suggested-by: Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Reviewed-by: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Signed-off-by: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
---
 .../devicetree/bindings/arm/coresight-debug.txt    | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 40 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/coresight-debug.txt

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/coresight-debug.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/coresight-debug.txt
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..92e5003
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/coresight-debug.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,40 @@
+* CoreSight Debug Component:
+
+CoreSight debug component are compliant with the ARMv8 architecture reference
+manual (ARM DDI 0487A.k) Chapter 'Part H: External debug'. The external debug
+module is mainly used for two modes: self-hosted debug and external debug, and
+it can be accessed from mmio region from Coresight and eventually the debug
+module connects with CPU for debugging. And the debug module provides
+sample-based profiling extension, which can be used to sample CPU program
+counter, secure state and exception level, etc; usually every CPU has one
+dedicated debug module to be connected.
+
+Required properties:
+
+- compatible : should be
+	     * "arm,coresight-debug"; supplemented with "arm,primecell" since
+	       this driver is using the AMBA bus interface.
+
+- reg : physical base address and length of the register set.
+
+- clocks : the clock associated to this component.
+
+- clock-names : the name of the clock referenced by the code. Since we are
+                using the AMBA framework, the name of the clock providing
+		the interconnect should be "apb_pclk" and the clock is
+		mandatory. The interface between the debug logic and the
+		processor core is clocked by the internal CPU clock, so it
+		is enabled with CPU clock by default.
+
+- cpu : the cpu phandle the debug module is affined to. When omitted
+	the module is considered to belong to CPU0.
+
+Example:
+
+	debug@f6590000 {
+		compatible = "arm,coresight-debug","arm,primecell";
+		reg = <0 0xf6590000 0 0x1000>;
+		clocks = <&sys_ctrl HI6220_DAPB_CLK>;
+		clock-names = "apb_pclk";
+		cpu = <&cpu0>;
+	};
-- 
2.7.4

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#1596068 — Re: [v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for debug module

FromSuzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
Date2017-03-09 14:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for debug module
Message-ID<tj6iL-5Jn-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1592219
To be honest, coresight-debug sounds too generic and could be confusing with lot
of the other components. To be precise, the area is for External Debug to a CPU.
So "arm,coresight-cpu-debug" or even "arm,coresight-cpu-external-debug" sounds
more appropriate to me.

Suzuki

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