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Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger

Started byGeert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
First post2016-10-31 11:20 +0100
Last post2016-10-31 13:30 +0100
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  Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE  stronger Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2016-10-31 11:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE  stronger Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2016-10-31 13:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE  stronger Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2016-10-31 15:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for  DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-10-31 16:10 +0100
          Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for  DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-10-31 16:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for  DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-10-31 13:30 +0100

#1512452 — Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger

FromGeert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Date2016-10-31 11:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger
Message-ID<syhR7-110-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> The current state of driver removal is not great.
> CONFIG_DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE finds lots of errors. The help text
> currently undersells exactly how many errors this option will find. Add
> a bit more description to indicate this option shouldn't be turned on
> unless you actually want to debug driver removal. The text can be
> changed later when more drivers are fixed up.

Indeed, this is failing miserably for e.g. SoC clock drivers using
platform_driver_probe(), which are never retried, rendering the complete
system useless.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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#1512530

FromGeert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Date2016-10-31 13:30 +0100
Message-ID<syjSV-2kD-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1512452
Hi Greg,

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:12:45AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > The current state of driver removal is not great.
>> > CONFIG_DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE finds lots of errors. The help text
>> > currently undersells exactly how many errors this option will find. Add
>> > a bit more description to indicate this option shouldn't be turned on
>> > unless you actually want to debug driver removal. The text can be
>> > changed later when more drivers are fixed up.
>>
>> Indeed, this is failing miserably for e.g. SoC clock drivers using
>> platform_driver_probe(), which are never retried, rendering the complete
>> system useless.
>
> Why are they never retried?

Because platform_driver_probe() is meant for non-hotpluggable devices,
and unregisters the platform driver immediately if probe fails.
See also the comments for __platform_driver_probe():

 * Note that this is incompatible with deferred probing.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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#1512568

FromRob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Date2016-10-31 15:20 +0100
Message-ID<sylBn-3xx-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1512530
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
<geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:12:45AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> > The current state of driver removal is not great.
>>> > CONFIG_DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE finds lots of errors. The help text
>>> > currently undersells exactly how many errors this option will find. Add
>>> > a bit more description to indicate this option shouldn't be turned on
>>> > unless you actually want to debug driver removal. The text can be
>>> > changed later when more drivers are fixed up.
>>>
>>> Indeed, this is failing miserably for e.g. SoC clock drivers using
>>> platform_driver_probe(), which are never retried, rendering the complete
>>> system useless.
>>
>> Why are they never retried?
>
> Because platform_driver_probe() is meant for non-hotpluggable devices,
> and unregisters the platform driver immediately if probe fails.
> See also the comments for __platform_driver_probe():

My patch "driver core: skip removal test for non-removable drivers"
fixes this case. It seems to have dropped from Greg's queue, so I'll
resend.

Rob

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#1512607 — Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger

FromGreg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Date2016-10-31 16:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger
Message-ID<symnM-43W-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1512568
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 09:10:57AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
> <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:12:45AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> > The current state of driver removal is not great.
> >>> > CONFIG_DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE finds lots of errors. The help text
> >>> > currently undersells exactly how many errors this option will find. Add
> >>> > a bit more description to indicate this option shouldn't be turned on
> >>> > unless you actually want to debug driver removal. The text can be
> >>> > changed later when more drivers are fixed up.
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, this is failing miserably for e.g. SoC clock drivers using
> >>> platform_driver_probe(), which are never retried, rendering the complete
> >>> system useless.
> >>
> >> Why are they never retried?
> >
> > Because platform_driver_probe() is meant for non-hotpluggable devices,
> > and unregisters the platform driver immediately if probe fails.
> > See also the comments for __platform_driver_probe():
> 
> My patch "driver core: skip removal test for non-removable drivers"
> fixes this case. It seems to have dropped from Greg's queue, so I'll
> resend.

Odd, I don't see that anywhere here, sorry about that...

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#1512609 — Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger

FromGreg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Date2016-10-31 16:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger
Message-ID<symnM-43W-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1512607
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 09:07:24AM -0600, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 09:10:57AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
> > <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:12:45AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>> > The current state of driver removal is not great.
> > >>> > CONFIG_DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE finds lots of errors. The help text
> > >>> > currently undersells exactly how many errors this option will find. Add
> > >>> > a bit more description to indicate this option shouldn't be turned on
> > >>> > unless you actually want to debug driver removal. The text can be
> > >>> > changed later when more drivers are fixed up.
> > >>>
> > >>> Indeed, this is failing miserably for e.g. SoC clock drivers using
> > >>> platform_driver_probe(), which are never retried, rendering the complete
> > >>> system useless.
> > >>
> > >> Why are they never retried?
> > >
> > > Because platform_driver_probe() is meant for non-hotpluggable devices,
> > > and unregisters the platform driver immediately if probe fails.
> > > See also the comments for __platform_driver_probe():
> > 
> > My patch "driver core: skip removal test for non-removable drivers"
> > fixes this case. It seems to have dropped from Greg's queue, so I'll
> > resend.
> 
> Odd, I don't see that anywhere here, sorry about that...

Ah, found it, will queue it up now.

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#1512531 — Re: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger

FromGreg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Date2016-10-31 13:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH] driver core: Make Kconfig text for DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE stronger
Message-ID<syjSV-2kD-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1512452
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:12:45AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> > The current state of driver removal is not great.
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE finds lots of errors. The help text
> > currently undersells exactly how many errors this option will find. Add
> > a bit more description to indicate this option shouldn't be turned on
> > unless you actually want to debug driver removal. The text can be
> > changed later when more drivers are fixed up.
> 
> Indeed, this is failing miserably for e.g. SoC clock drivers using
> platform_driver_probe(), which are never retried, rendering the complete
> system useless.

Why are they never retried?

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