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[PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA

Started byNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
First post2015-10-23 23:00 +0200
Last post2015-10-28 03:00 +0100
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  [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:00 +0200
    [PATCH 1/7 v3] dma-mapping: add generic dma_get_page_shift API Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:00 +0200
    [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru> - 2015-10-27 07:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift "Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com> - 2015-10-27 15:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-27 23:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru> - 2015-10-28 02:10 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-28 03:00 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2015-10-28 03:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-28 03:40 +0100
                  Re: [PATCH 2/7 v2] powerpc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2015-10-28 04:30 +0100
    [PATCH 4/7 v2] pseries/iommu: implement DDW-aware dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 4/7 v2] pseries/iommu: implement DDW-aware  dma_get_page_shift Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru> - 2015-10-27 07:00 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 4/7 v2] pseries/iommu: implement DDW-aware  dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-27 23:30 +0100
    [RFC PATCH 6/7] sparc/dma-mapping: override dma_get_page_shift Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:10 +0200
    [PATCH 7/7 v2] drivers/nvme: default to the IOMMU page size Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:10 +0200
    [PATCH 5/7] [RFC PATCH 5/7] sparc: rename kernel/iommu_common.h ->  include/asm/iommu_common.h Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 5/7] [RFC PATCH 5/7] sparc: rename kernel/iommu_common.h  -> include/asm/iommu_common.h Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-23 23:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> - 2015-10-27 02:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-27 23:30 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA "Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com> - 2015-10-27 23:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> - 2015-10-28 01:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA "Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com> - 2015-10-28 15:00 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2015-10-29 13:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-29 17:00 +0100
                  Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA "Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com> - 2015-10-29 18:30 +0100
                    [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-30 22:40 +0100
                      Re: [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com> - 2015-10-30 22:50 +0100
                        Re: [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-30 23:20 +0100
                  Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> - 2015-10-30 02:40 +0100
                    Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-30 22:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 00:00 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 00:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2015-10-28 01:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> - 2015-10-28 01:50 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-28 00:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> - 2015-10-28 01:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 0/5 v3] Fix NVMe driver support on Power with 32-bit DMA Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-10-28 03:00 +0100

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#1257435

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-27 23:30 +0100
Message-ID<qokUG-2vz-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1256377
On 26.10.2015 [18:27:46 -0700], David Miller wrote:
> From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:54:20 -0700
> 
> > 1) add a generic dma_get_page_shift implementation that just returns
> > PAGE_SHIFT
> 
> I won't object to this patch series, but if I had implemented this I
> would have required the architectures to implement this explicitly,
> one-by-one.  I think it is less error prone and more likely to end
> up with all the architectures setting this correctly.

Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
more detail I'd appreciate it!

Thanks,
Nish

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#1257442

From"Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com>
Date2015-10-27 23:40 +0100
Message-ID<qol4l-2Aj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257435
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 03:20:10PM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> On 26.10.2015 [18:27:46 -0700], David Miller wrote:
> > From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:54:20 -0700
> > 
> > > 1) add a generic dma_get_page_shift implementation that just returns
> > > PAGE_SHIFT
> > 
> > I won't object to this patch series, but if I had implemented this I
> > would have required the architectures to implement this explicitly,
> > one-by-one.  I think it is less error prone and more likely to end
> > up with all the architectures setting this correctly.
> 
> Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
> So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
> dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
> architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
> But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
> more detail I'd appreciate it!

If you're suggesting to compile-time break architectures that currently
work just fine with NVMe, let me stop you right there.
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#1257512

FromDavid Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Date2015-10-28 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<qomWu-3K3-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257442
From: "Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:36:43 +0000

> If you're suggesting to compile-time break architectures that currently
> work just fine with NVMe, let me stop you right there.

Silently "working" without the architecture maintainer having to explicity
look at the new interface and make sure his platform is implementing it
properly is an extremely bad practice.
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#1258051

From"Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com>
Date2015-10-28 15:00 +0100
Message-ID<qozqG-3k6-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257512
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 05:54:43PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: "Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:36:43 +0000
> 
> > If you're suggesting to compile-time break architectures that currently
> > work just fine with NVMe, let me stop you right there.
> 
> Silently "working" without the architecture maintainer having to explicity
> look at the new interface and make sure his platform is implementing it
> properly is an extremely bad practice.

It won't work if it's wrong. It'll BUG_ON, and I'll be assigned to help
fix it, like what's happened here (on a private bugzilla).

The "new" interface for all the other architectures is the same as the
old one we've been using for the last 5 years.

I welcome x86 maintainer feedback to confirm virtual and DMA addresses
have the same offset at 4k alignment, but I have to insist we don't
break my currently working hardware to force their attention.
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#1258742

FromChristoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Date2015-10-29 13:00 +0100
Message-ID<qoU26-89o-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1258051
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 01:59:23PM +0000, Busch, Keith wrote:
> The "new" interface for all the other architectures is the same as the
> old one we've been using for the last 5 years.
> 
> I welcome x86 maintainer feedback to confirm virtual and DMA addresses
> have the same offset at 4k alignment, but I have to insist we don't
> break my currently working hardware to force their attention.

We had a quick cht about this issue and I think we simply should
default to a NVMe controler page size of 4k everywhere as that's the
safe default.  This is also what we do for RDMA Memory reigstrations and
it works fine there for SRP and iSER.
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#1258880

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-29 17:00 +0100
Message-ID<qoXMn-26W-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1258742
On 29.10.2015 [04:55:36 -0700], Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 01:59:23PM +0000, Busch, Keith wrote:
> > The "new" interface for all the other architectures is the same as the
> > old one we've been using for the last 5 years.
> > 
> > I welcome x86 maintainer feedback to confirm virtual and DMA addresses
> > have the same offset at 4k alignment, but I have to insist we don't
> > break my currently working hardware to force their attention.
> 
> We had a quick cht about this issue and I think we simply should
> default to a NVMe controler page size of 4k everywhere as that's the
> safe default.  This is also what we do for RDMA Memory reigstrations and
> it works fine there for SRP and iSER.

So, would that imply changing just the NVMe driver code rather than
adding the dma_page_shift API at all? What about
architectures that can support the larger page sizes? There is an
implied performance impact, at least, of shifting the IO size down.

Sorry for the continuing questions -- I got lots of conflicting feedback
on the last series and want to make sure v4 is more acceptable.

Thanks,
Nish

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#1258928

From"Busch, Keith" <keith.busch@intel.com>
Date2015-10-29 18:30 +0100
Message-ID<qoZbt-386-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1258880
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 08:57:01AM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> On 29.10.2015 [04:55:36 -0700], Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > We had a quick cht about this issue and I think we simply should
> > default to a NVMe controler page size of 4k everywhere as that's the
> > safe default.  This is also what we do for RDMA Memory reigstrations and
> > it works fine there for SRP and iSER.
> 
> So, would that imply changing just the NVMe driver code rather than
> adding the dma_page_shift API at all? What about
> architectures that can support the larger page sizes? There is an
> implied performance impact, at least, of shifting the IO size down.

It is the safe option, but you're right that it might have a measurable
performance impact (can you run an experiment?). Maybe we should just
change the driver to always use MPSMIN for the moment in the interest
of time, and you can flush out the new API before the next merge window.
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#1259804 — [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-30 22:40 +0100
Subject[PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size
Message-ID<qppyW-2yK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1258928
On 29.10.2015 [17:20:43 +0000], Busch, Keith wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 08:57:01AM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > On 29.10.2015 [04:55:36 -0700], Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > We had a quick cht about this issue and I think we simply should
> > > default to a NVMe controler page size of 4k everywhere as that's the
> > > safe default.  This is also what we do for RDMA Memory reigstrations and
> > > it works fine there for SRP and iSER.
> > 
> > So, would that imply changing just the NVMe driver code rather than
> > adding the dma_page_shift API at all? What about
> > architectures that can support the larger page sizes? There is an
> > implied performance impact, at least, of shifting the IO size down.
> 
> It is the safe option, but you're right that it might have a
> measurable performance impact (can you run an experiment?). Maybe we
> should just change the driver to always use MPSMIN for the moment in
> the interest of time, and you can flush out the new API before the
> next merge window.

Given that it's 4K just about everywhere by default (and sort of
implicitly expected to be, I guess), I think I'd prefer we default to
4K. That should mitigate the performance impact (I'll ask our IO team to
do some runs, but since this impacts functionality on some hardware, I
don't think it's too relevant for now). Unless there are NVMe devcies
with a MPSMAX < 4K? 

Something like the following?



We received a bug report recently when DDW (64-bit direct DMA on Power)
is not enabled for NVMe devices. In that case, we fall back to 32-bit
DMA via the IOMMU, which is always done via 4K TCEs (Translation Control
Entries).

The NVMe device driver, though, assumes that the DMA alignment for the
PRP entries will match the device's page size, and that the DMA aligment
matches the kernel's page aligment. On Power, the the IOMMU page size,
as mentioned above, can be 4K, while the device can have a page size of
8K, while the kernel has a page size of 64K. This eventually trips the
BUG_ON in nvme_setup_prps(), as we have a 'dma_len' that is a multiple
of 4K but not 8K (e.g., 0xF000).

In this particular case of page sizes, we clearly want to use the
IOMMU's page size in the driver. And generally, the NVMe driver in this
function should be using the IOMMU's page size for the default device
page size, rather than the kernel's page size. There is not currently an
API to obtain the IOMMU's page size across all architectures and in the
interest of a stop-gap fix to this functional issue, default the NVMe
device page size to 4K, with the intent of adding such an API and
implementation across all architectures in the next merge window.

Signed-off-by: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

---
v1 -> v2:
  Based upon feedback from Christoph Hellwig, implement the IOMMU page
  size lookup as a generic DMA API, rather than an architecture-specific
  hack.

v2 -> v3:
  In the interest of fixing the functional problem in the short-term,
  just force the device page size to 4K and work on adding the new API
  in the next merge window.

diff --git a/drivers/block/nvme-core.c b/drivers/block/nvme-core.c
index ccc0c1f93daa..a9a5285bdb39 100644
--- a/drivers/block/nvme-core.c
+++ b/drivers/block/nvme-core.c
@@ -1717,7 +1717,12 @@ static int nvme_configure_admin_queue(struct nvme_dev *dev)
 	u32 aqa;
 	u64 cap = readq(&dev->bar->cap);
 	struct nvme_queue *nvmeq;
-	unsigned page_shift = PAGE_SHIFT;
+	/*
+	 * default to a 4K page size, with the intention to update this
+	 * path in the future to accomodate architectures with differing
+	 * kernel and IO page sizes.
+	 */
+	unsigned page_shift = 12;
 	unsigned dev_page_min = NVME_CAP_MPSMIN(cap) + 12;
 	unsigned dev_page_max = NVME_CAP_MPSMAX(cap) + 12;
 




-Nish

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#1259811 — Re: [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size

FromKeith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
Date2015-10-30 22:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size
Message-ID<qppIC-2BU-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1259804
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 02:35:11PM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> Given that it's 4K just about everywhere by default (and sort of
> implicitly expected to be, I guess), I think I'd prefer we default to
> 4K. That should mitigate the performance impact (I'll ask our IO team to
> do some runs, but since this impacts functionality on some hardware, I
> don't think it's too relevant for now). Unless there are NVMe devcies
> with a MPSMAX < 4K? 

Right, I assumed MPSMIN was always 4k for the same reason you mentioned,
but you can hard code it like you've done in your patch.

The spec defines MPSMAX such that it's impossible to find a device
with MPSMAX < 4k.
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#1259817 — Re: [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-30 23:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH 1/1 v3] drivers/nvme: default to 4k device page size
Message-ID<qpqbE-30S-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1259811
On 30.10.2015 [21:48:48 +0000], Keith Busch wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 02:35:11PM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > Given that it's 4K just about everywhere by default (and sort of
> > implicitly expected to be, I guess), I think I'd prefer we default to
> > 4K. That should mitigate the performance impact (I'll ask our IO team to
> > do some runs, but since this impacts functionality on some hardware, I
> > don't think it's too relevant for now). Unless there are NVMe devcies
> > with a MPSMAX < 4K? 
> 
> Right, I assumed MPSMIN was always 4k for the same reason you mentioned,
> but you can hard code it like you've done in your patch.
> 
> The spec defines MPSMAX such that it's impossible to find a device
> with MPSMAX < 4k.

Great, thanks!

-Nish

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#1259161

FromDavid Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Date2015-10-30 02:40 +0100
Message-ID<qp6PD-7Qh-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1258880
From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:57:01 -0700

> So, would that imply changing just the NVMe driver code rather than
> adding the dma_page_shift API at all? What about
> architectures that can support the larger page sizes? There is an
> implied performance impact, at least, of shifting the IO size down.
> 
> Sorry for the continuing questions -- I got lots of conflicting feedback
> on the last series and want to make sure v4 is more acceptable.

In the long term I would be very happy to see us having a real interface
for this stuff, just my opinion...
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#1259807

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-30 22:40 +0100
Message-ID<qppyW-2yK-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1259161
On 29.10.2015 [18:49:55 -0700], David Miller wrote:
> From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:57:01 -0700
> 
> > So, would that imply changing just the NVMe driver code rather than
> > adding the dma_page_shift API at all? What about
> > architectures that can support the larger page sizes? There is an
> > implied performance impact, at least, of shifting the IO size down.
> > 
> > Sorry for the continuing questions -- I got lots of conflicting feedback
> > on the last series and want to make sure v4 is more acceptable.
> 
> In the long term I would be very happy to see us having a real interface
> for this stuff, just my opinion...

Yep, I think I'll try and balance the two -- fix NVMe for now with a 4K
page size as suggested by Christoph, and then work on the more complete
API for the next merge.

Thanks,
Nish

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#1257451

FromJulian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-28 00:00 +0100
Message-ID<qolnI-2I6-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257435
Hi Nishanth,

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Nishanth Aravamudan
<nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 26.10.2015 [18:27:46 -0700], David Miller wrote:
>> From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:54:20 -0700
>>
>> > 1) add a generic dma_get_page_shift implementation that just returns
>> > PAGE_SHIFT
>>
>> I won't object to this patch series, but if I had implemented this I
>> would have required the architectures to implement this explicitly,
>> one-by-one.  I think it is less error prone and more likely to end
>> up with all the architectures setting this correctly.
>
> Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
> So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
> dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
> architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
> But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
> more detail I'd appreciate it!

He's suggesting that you _don't_ put a generic implementation in
/include/linux/dma-mapping.h and instead add it to _every_
architecture.

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#1257480

FromJulian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-28 00:50 +0100
Message-ID<qoma5-3eI-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257451
Hi Nishanth,

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Nishanth Aravamudan
<nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 28.10.2015 [09:57:48 +1100], Julian Calaby wrote:
>> Hi Nishanth,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Nishanth Aravamudan
>> <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> > On 26.10.2015 [18:27:46 -0700], David Miller wrote:
>> >> From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> >> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:54:20 -0700
>> >>
>> >> > 1) add a generic dma_get_page_shift implementation that just returns
>> >> > PAGE_SHIFT
>> >>
>> >> I won't object to this patch series, but if I had implemented this I
>> >> would have required the architectures to implement this explicitly,
>> >> one-by-one.  I think it is less error prone and more likely to end
>> >> up with all the architectures setting this correctly.
>> >
>> > Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
>> > So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
>> > dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
>> > architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
>> > But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
>> > more detail I'd appreciate it!
>>
>> He's suggesting that you _don't_ put a generic implementation in
>> /include/linux/dma-mapping.h and instead add it to _every_
>> architecture.
>
> Ah, I see! Well, I don't know much about the DMA internals of most
> architectures -- and my approach kept things functionally the same
> everywhere (using PAGE_SHIFT) except:
>
> a) Power, where I know it doesn't work as-is
> and
> b) sparc, where the code implied that a different value than PAGE_SHIFT
> should be used.

You'll be CCing the maintainers of each architecture on the patches to
add the functions, so if they do have specific requirements, I'm sure
they'll let you know or provide patches.

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#1257518

FromBenjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date2015-10-28 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<qomWv-3K3-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257480
On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 10:43 +1100, Julian Calaby wrote:
> Hi Nishanth,
> You'll be CCing the maintainers of each architecture on the patches
> to
> add the functions, so if they do have specific requirements, I'm sure
> they'll let you know or provide patches.

That sort of accross-all-arch change tend to take forever. I'd rather
get the existing series in to fix the problem, we can look into
improving things later but I tend to think that the default of using
PAGE_SHIFT in asm-generic will be fine for most archs.

Ben.

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#1257536

FromDavid Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Date2015-10-28 01:50 +0100
Message-ID<qon6b-3PX-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257480
From: Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:43:35 +1100

> You'll be CCing the maintainers of each architecture on the patches to
> add the functions, so if they do have specific requirements, I'm sure
> they'll let you know or provide patches.

People miss things, maintainers get busy, so while a CC: is important
and appreciated, it doesn't ensure a correct implementation is likely
to result.

Personally, I'd much rather my arch stop building so I have to go in
there to explicitly look at the reason why and make sure I fill in the
missing pieces properly and accurately.
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#1257481

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-28 00:50 +0100
Message-ID<qoma5-3eI-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257451
On 28.10.2015 [09:57:48 +1100], Julian Calaby wrote:
> Hi Nishanth,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Nishanth Aravamudan
> <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On 26.10.2015 [18:27:46 -0700], David Miller wrote:
> >> From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:54:20 -0700
> >>
> >> > 1) add a generic dma_get_page_shift implementation that just returns
> >> > PAGE_SHIFT
> >>
> >> I won't object to this patch series, but if I had implemented this I
> >> would have required the architectures to implement this explicitly,
> >> one-by-one.  I think it is less error prone and more likely to end
> >> up with all the architectures setting this correctly.
> >
> > Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
> > So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
> > dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
> > architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
> > But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
> > more detail I'd appreciate it!
> 
> He's suggesting that you _don't_ put a generic implementation in
> /include/linux/dma-mapping.h and instead add it to _every_
> architecture.

Ah, I see! Well, I don't know much about the DMA internals of most
architectures -- and my approach kept things functionally the same
everywhere (using PAGE_SHIFT) except:

a) Power, where I know it doesn't work as-is
and
b) sparc, where the code implied that a different value than PAGE_SHIFT
should be used.

Thanks,
Nish

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#1257508

FromDavid Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Date2015-10-28 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<qomWu-3K3-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257435
From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:20:10 -0700

> Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
> So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
> dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
> architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
> But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
> more detail I'd appreciate it!

Yes, I am basically suggesting to simply not provide a default at all.
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#1257571

FromNishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-10-28 03:00 +0100
Message-ID<qoobU-4xv-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1257508
On 27.10.2015 [17:53:22 -0700], David Miller wrote:
> From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:20:10 -0700
> 
> > Well, looks like I should spin up a v4 anyways for the powerpc changes.
> > So, to make sure I understand your point, should I make the generic
> > dma_get_page_shift a compile-error kind of thing? It will only fail on
> > architectures that actually build the NVME driver (as the only caller).
> > But I'm not sure how exactly to achieve that, if you could give a bit
> > more detail I'd appreciate it!
> 
> Yes, I am basically suggesting to simply not provide a default at all.

For my own edification -- what is the way that gets resolved? I guess I
mean it seems like linux-next would cease to compile because of my new
series. Would my patches just get kicked out of -next for introducing
that (or even via the 0-day notifications), or should I put something
into the commit message indicating it is an API introduction?

Sorry for the tentativeness, I have not introduce a cross-architecture
API like this before.

Thanks,
Nish

> 

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