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Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap()

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On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Wed 27-09-17 07:00:53, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>> > On Tue 26-09-17 14:41:53, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Ross Zwisler
>> >> <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:19:21PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Ross Zwisler
>> >> > <>
>> >> >> > This decision can only be made (in this
>> >> >> > proposed scheme) *after* the inode->i_mapping->i_mmap  tree has been
>> >> >> > populated, which means we need another call into the filesystem after this
>> >> >> > insertion has happened.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I get that, but it seems over-engineered and something that can also
>> >> >> be safely cleaned up after the fact by the code path that is disabling
>> >> >> DAX.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think you can safely clean it up after the fact because some thread
>> >> > might have already called ->mmap() to set up the vma->vm_flags for their new
>> >> > mapping, but they haven't added it to inode->i_mapping->i_mmap.
>> >>
>> >> If madvise(MADV_NOHUGEPAGE) can dynamically change vm_flags, then the
>> >> DAX disable path can as well. VM_MIXEDMAP looks to be a nop for normal
>> >> memory mappings.
>> >>
>> >> > The inode->i_mapping->i_mmap tree is the only way (that I know of at least)
>> >> > that the filesystem has any idea about about the mapping.  This is the method
>> >> > by which we would try and clean up mapping flags, if we were to do so, and
>> >> > it's the only way that the filesystem can know whether or not mappings exist.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only way that I could think of to make this safely work is to have the
>> >> > insertion into the inode->i_mapping->i_mmap tree be our sync point.  After
>> >> > that the filesystem and the mapping code can communicate on the state of DAX,
>> >> > but before that I think it's basically indeterminate.
>> >>
>> >> If we lose the race and leak VM_HUGEPAGE to a non-DAX mapping what
>> >> breaks? I'd rather be in favor of not setting VM_HUGEPAGE at all in
>> >> the ->mmap() handler and let the default THP policy take over. In
>> >> fact, see transparent_hugepage_enabled() we already auto-enable huge
>> >> page support for dax mappings regardless of VM_HUGEPAGE.
>> >
>> > Hum, this is an interesting option. So do you suggest that filesystems
>> > supporting DAX would always setup mappings with VM_MIXEDMAP and without
>> > VM_HUGEPAGE and thus we'd get rid of dependency on S_DAX flag in ->mmap?
>> > That could actually work. The only possible issue I can see is that
>> > VM_MIXEDMAP is still slightly different from normal page mappings and it
>> > could have some performance implications - e.g. copy_page_range() does more
>> > work on VM_MIXEDMAP mappings but not on normal page mappings.
>>
>> We can also get rid of VM_MIXEDMAP if we disable DAX in the
>> !pfn_t_has_page() case.
>
> Yeah, although it would be a pity to require struct page just to avoid
> having to set VM_MIXEDMAP flag...

Yes, but the real motivation is fixing all the basic things that break
without struct page, like ptrace and direct-i/o. The removal of
needing to set VM_MIXEDMAP is just a nice side effect. I'll send a
patch because DAX without pages has too many surprise failure cases.

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Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-26 21:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> - 2017-09-26 21:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-26 23:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> - 2017-09-26 23:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2017-09-27 13:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> - 2017-09-27 16:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2017-09-27 17:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> - 2017-09-27 17:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-27 17:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> - 2017-09-27 18:00 +0200

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