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Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq enable/disable events

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:34:32 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> > 
> >             grep-1041  [002] d..1    80.363455: preempt_disable:
> > caller=_raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x1d/0x40
> > parent=add_wait_queue+0x15/0x50  
> 
> I suppose that sort-of makes sense for the preempt-tracer, but its a
> weird thing for a generic tracepoint.

I still find it very useful, even as a tracepoint.

> 
> > >>  void start_critical_timings(void)
> > >>  {
> > >> +     if (this_cpu_read(tracing_preempt_cpu))
> > >> +             trace_preempt_enable_rcuidle(CALLER_ADDR0, CALLER_ADDR1);
> > >> +
> > >> +     if (this_cpu_read(tracing_irq_cpu))
> > >> +             trace_irq_enable_rcuidle(CALLER_ADDR0, CALLER_ADDR1);
> > >> +
> > >>       start_critical_timings_tracer();
> > >>  }
> > >>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(start_critical_timings);
> > >>
> > >>  void stop_critical_timings(void)
> > >>  {
> > >> +     if (this_cpu_read(tracing_preempt_cpu))
> > >> +             trace_preempt_disable_rcuidle(CALLER_ADDR0, CALLER_ADDR1);
> > >> +
> > >> +     if (this_cpu_read(tracing_irq_cpu))
> > >> +             trace_irq_disable_rcuidle(CALLER_ADDR0, CALLER_ADDR1);
> > >> +
> > >>       stop_critical_timings_tracer();
> > >>  }
> > >>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(stop_critical_timings);  
> > >
> > > And I feel these yield somewhat odd semantics, does that need explaining
> > > somewhere?  
> > 
> > Maybe I can add a comment here, if you prefer that. When you meant
> > semantics, do you mean 'critical' vs 'atomic' thing or do you mean the
> > semantics/context of how this function is supposed to be used?  
> 
> I would add the comment to the tracepoint definition.
> 
> On semantics, the whole stop/start excludes a fair bunch of walltime
> from our measurement, I feel that needs to be called out and enumerated
> (when time goes missing and why).
> 
> Given that the idle thread runs with preempt-off I understand its
> purpose from the POV from the preempt-tracer, but its 'weird' behaviour
> if you're looking at it from a pure tracepoint pov.

You mean you want to trace all calls to preempt and irq off even if
preempt and irqs are already off?


> 
> > >>  void trace_preempt_off(unsigned long a0, unsigned long a1)
> > >>  {
> > >> +     if (this_cpu_read(tracing_preempt_cpu))
> > >> +             return;
> > >> +
> > >> +     this_cpu_write(tracing_preempt_cpu, 1);
> > >> +
> > >> +     trace_preempt_disable_rcuidle(a0, a1);
> > >>       tracer_preempt_off(a0, a1);
> > >>  }
> > >>  #endif  
> > >
> > > And here you assume things like double on / double off don't happen,
> > > which might well be so, but does seem somewhat fragile.
> > >  
> > 
> > We are handling the cases where these functions might be called twice,
> > but we are only interested in the first time they're called. I caught
> > a dead lock happen when I didn't add such protection to
> > trace_hardirqs_off so I added to these to the trace_hardirqs* and
> > trace_preempt* ones as well to just to be extra safe and keep it
> > consistent. Hope I understood your concern correctly, if not please
> > let me know, thanks.  
> 
> Under what conditions where they called twice? That seems like something
> that should not happen to begin with. Esp the one I left quoted above,
> disabling when its already disabled sounds like fail. So please provide
> more details on the scenario you're working around.

I'm a little confused by this too.

-- Steve

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[PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq enable/disable events Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> - 2017-09-22 04:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-22 11:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> - 2017-09-22 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-25 10:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2017-09-25 12:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-25 12:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2017-09-25 13:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> - 2017-09-26 01:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2017-09-26 04:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] tracing: Add support for preempt and irq  enable/disable events Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> - 2017-09-26 02:30 +0200

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