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Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages"

From Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages"
Date 2017-03-28 17:40 +0200
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On 28/03/17 16:27, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 03/28/2017 04:08 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 28.03.17 at 03:57, <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> wrote:
>>> I think there is indeed a disconnect between target memory (provided by 
>>> the toolstack) and current memory (i.e actual pages available to the guest).
>>>
>>> For example
>>>
>>> [    0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x000000000009e000-0x000000000009ffff] 
>>> reserved
>>> [    0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000000000e0000-0x00000000000fffff] 
>>> reserved
>>>
>>> are missed in target calculation. The hvmloader marks them as RESERVED 
>>> (in build_e820_table()) but target value is not aware of this action.
>>>
>>> And then the same problem repeats when kernel removes 
>>> 0x000a0000-0x000fffff chunk.
>> But this is all in-guest behavior, i.e. nothing an entity outside the
>> guest (tool stack or hypervisor) should need to be aware of. That
>> said, there is still room for improvement in the tools I think:
>> Regions which architecturally aren't RAM (namely the
>> 0xa0000-0xfffff range) would probably better not be accounted
>> for as RAM as far as ballooning is concerned. In the hypervisor,
>> otoh, all memory assigned to the guest (i.e. including such backing
>> ROMs) needs to be accounted.
> 
> On the Linux side we should not include in balloon calculations pages
> reserved by trim_bios_range(), i.e. (BIOS_END-BIOS_BEGIN) + 1.
> 
> Which leaves hvmloader's special pages (and possibly memory under
> 0xA0000 which may get reserved). Can we pass this info to guests via
> xenstore?

I'd rather keep an internal difference between online pages and E820-map
count value in the balloon driver. This should work always.


Juergen

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Re: maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set balloon's  initial state to number of existing RAM pages" Dan Streetman <dan.streetman@canonical.com> - 2017-03-27 22:00 +0200
  Re: maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set balloon's  initial state to number of existing RAM pages" Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-03-28 04:00 +0200
    Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon:  Set balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages" "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2017-03-28 10:10 +0200
      Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set  balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages" Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-03-28 16:40 +0200
        Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon:  Set balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages" "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> - 2017-03-28 17:10 +0200
        Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set  balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages" Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-03-28 17:40 +0200
          Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set  balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages" Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-03-28 18:40 +0200
            Re: [Xen-devel] maybe revert commit c275a57f5ec3 "xen/balloon: Set  balloon's initial state to number of existing RAM pages" Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-03-29 06:40 +0200

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