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Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power

From Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power
Date 2017-02-21 19:00 +0100
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Mon 2017-02-20 21:33:27, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > Nothing in the PSCI specification requires the SoC to remain powered and
> > to support wake-up sources when suspended using SYSTEM_SUSPEND.
> > If the firmware implements the PSCI SYSTEM_SUSPEND operation by cutting
> > power to the SoC, the only possibly wake-up sources are thus the ones
> > connected to the PMIC.
> > 
> > Document and add support for an "arm,psci-system-suspend-is-power-down"
> > DT property, so Linux uses a different suspend method when other wake-up
> > sources (e.g. wake on LAN, UART or GPIO) are enabled.
> 
> Should we make PSCI return that information? (At least in next
> specification version?)

Largely, this is somewhat ill-defined, so it's not something that can be
easily (or correctly) described by a limited firmware call interface.

I believe that the correct way to describe this is to describe the
wakeup capabilities on devices. Both ACPI and DT have mechanisms for
that today, though it seems that there is confusion as to precisely how
to use them.

Thanks,
Mark.

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[PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be> - 2017-02-20 21:40 +0100
  [PATCH/RFC 2/6] PM / Wakeup: Add wakeup_source_available() Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be> - 2017-02-20 21:40 +0100
  [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be> - 2017-02-20 21:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 17:30 +0100
        Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 18:00 +0100
    Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-21 12:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 12:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 17:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 18:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-22 14:50 +0100
              Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-22 15:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 18:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 19:10 +0100
              Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 19:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow  suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 19:30 +0100
  [PATCH/RFC 1/6] alarmtimer: Postpone wake-up source registration until really available Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be> - 2017-02-20 21:40 +0100
  [PATCH/RFC 6/6] arm64: dts: r8a7796: Fix non-PMIC wake-up sources Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be> - 2017-02-20 21:40 +0100
  [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be> - 2017-02-20 21:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 12:00 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 17:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 17:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-21 12:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 17:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 19:00 +0100
    Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 18:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-22 15:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if  SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2017-02-22 16:00 +0100
  Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 11:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 17:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 17:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-21 18:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 19:00 +0100
            Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 19:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-21 19:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2017-02-22 02:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-22 12:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-22 14:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-22 15:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2017-02-22 16:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-22 17:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-23 16:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-23 16:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-23 17:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts  power Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> - 2017-02-23 17:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2017-02-22 14:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2017-02-22 15:40 +0100

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