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Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI

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On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 10:21:02AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2016-10-05 10:09:12 [+0200], Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 09:41:47AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > are those problems DL related?
> > 
> > One of them, the other is that PI thing you did that ugly nodeboost
> > thing for, right?
> 
> this no-de-boost yes. This is probably a problem since we have this
> "delayed" wake-up. I've been thinking about a marked in PI state to
> ignore a de-boost so the spin_unlock() won't be a problem. But if I
> understand it right, then this won't solve the DL problem since you
> can't have two tasks at the same priority.

The primary concern for DL right now is being able to have a stable
pointer to the top waiter. We do this by having  rt_mutex_setprio()
update the pointer while holding both rq->lock and tsk->pi_lock.

This means the pointer is stable when holding either lock, which is
sufficient.

But this means, we need to deboost _before_ we wake. Otherwise the task
could've continued running and called do_exit() on us.


Secondary, once we start looking at BWI (bandwidth inheritance), where a
blocked DL task donates its runtime budget along with its deadline, we
also very much need this, since a task cannot be running of its own
budget while at the same time the boosted task is also running off that
same budget.

(having the 'blocked' DL task spin-waiting, as per optimistic spinning,
makes all that rather 'interesting').

In any case, this is two problems:

  - your inversion issue
  - my pointer stability (and eventually bandwidth issue)

that are caused by this hb->lock being in the way.

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[RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 11:30 +0200
  [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 11:30 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-10-03 17:40 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 17:50 +0200
        Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-10-03 18:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 17:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-05 09:50 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-05 10:10 +0200
        Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-05 10:30 +0200
          Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-05 10:40 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-06 12:30 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-07 13:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-08 18:00 +0200
        Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-08 19:00 +0200
          Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-08 19:10 +0200
          Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-10 12:30 +0200
            Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-10 13:50 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-08 20:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-09 13:30 +0200
        Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-10 16:10 +0200
  [RFC][PATCH 1/4] futex: Cleanup variable names for futex_top_waiter() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 11:30 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/4] futex: Cleanup variable names for  futex_top_waiter() Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-10-03 16:20 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/4] futex: Cleanup variable names for  futex_top_waiter() Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-10-05 06:00 +0200
  [RFC][PATCH 3/4] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 11:30 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-03 11:40 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-10-03 16:30 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-10-05 03:10 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-05 09:40 +0200
  Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-10-05 03:10 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-05 08:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-05 09:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-10-05 18:10 +0200

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