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Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS

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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:13:46PM -0400, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Roland Singer
> <roland.singer@desertbit.com> wrote:
> > I configured bbswitch to not set any states automatically...
> > So it's possible to obtain and verify the GPU power state.
> >
> > However I removed the bbswitch module and booted with nouveau.
> >
> > Kernel 4.7.2: nouveau switches the discrete GPU off.
> >               I can't trigger the freeze, because bbswitch is missing.
> >               I'll work with the system and see if it will freeze.
> >
> > Kernel 4.8-rc4: nouveau does not care about the power state and
> >                 the discrete GPU is never switched off. I will notice
> >                 this, because the second cooling FAN will stop...
> >                 Same log messages as send before.
> 
> That's surprising. I believe there's an issue with the new logic when
> there's an HDMI audio subdevice. However that only appears if there's
> a cable plugged in, at least in the systems Peter tested. You should
> be able to see whether it's there or not with 'lspci'.

I doubt that the audio device is responsible here, that should only show
up after following very specific steps (runtime suspend/resume (PCI or
ACPI magic), remove PCI device, rescan bus).

> You can check for sure by looking in the vgaswitcheroo state. It
> should say DynOff when it's powered off.
> 
> Either way, I think using bbswitch + nouveau isn't supported by
> anyone, so if you want to use it that way, you're on your own. (You
> may want to load nouveau with runpm=0 so that nouveau doesn't try to
> manage the GPU suspend stuff.)

I understood that Roland's intent is to check the power state, not use
the suspend functionality of bbswitch, if you load bbswitch without
module options amd do not write to /proc/bbswitch, then it allows you to
read out the actual status (you could also just use lspci -H1 for that
though).
-- 
Kind regards,
Peter Wu
https://lekensteyn.nl

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Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-29 18:10 +0200
  Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-29 21:10 +0200
    Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-29 21:10 +0200
      Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-29 22:00 +0200
        Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-30 02:00 +0200
          Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 12:20 +0200
            Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-30 15:10 +0200
              Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 16:10 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 17:30 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 17:50 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 17:50 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 17:50 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 19:40 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 19:50 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 20:10 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 20:20 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-30 21:30 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:20 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:20 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 20:10 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 20:20 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:00 +0200
  Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-30 22:00 +0200
    Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:30 +0200
      Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-31 13:50 +0200
        Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 14:30 +0200
          Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-31 14:40 +0200
            Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 15:20 +0200
              Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 22:10 +0200
                Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 22:20 +0200

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