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| From | Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.kernel |
| Subject | Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS |
| Date | 2016-08-30 20:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sbVNE-8n7-35@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On 30 August 2016 at 19:09, Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 August 2016 at 18:37, Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> wrote:
>> I am running 4.7.2, but I also just tried the 4.8.0-rc4 mainline kernel.
>> The result is the same. There is no difference if bbswitch of acpi_call
>> is used. However I noticed following:
>>
>> 1. The nouveau driver is broken in both kernel version and is responsible
>> for the freezes while gathering power state information with bbswitch.
>> Sometimes while shutting the system down, everything except the LCD
>> screen is switched off. This only happens with nouveau.
>> I noticed following error log messages:
>>
> I second Ilia here. Using bbswitch in conjunction with any driver (be
> that nouveau or the proprietary one) is a bad idea.
>
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fb: 6144 MiB GDDR5
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: priv: HUB0: 10ecc0 ffffffff (1e40822c)
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: VRAM: 6144 MiB
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: GART: 1048576 MiB
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: Pointer to TMDS table invalid
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB version 4.1
>> kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: Pointer to flat panel table invalid
>>
>> 2. -> Boot with nouveau module loaded
>> -> switch off the discrete GPU with bbswitch or acpi_call
>> -> start X11
>> -> obtaining power state with bbswitch freezes the system
>> -> or working with the system for some minutes freezes the system
>>
> (If Ilia's suggestions does not help) Confirm if the freeze is due
> to/as the GPU is powered on or off.
>
>> 3. -> Boot with nouveau module blacklisted
>> -> switch off the discrete GPU
>> -> start X11
>> -> system immediately freezes
>>
> It's perfectly possible that the discrete GPU is set as boot one and X
> goes angry since there's no driver/way to bring it up.
>
>> 4. -> Boot with nouveau module blacklisted
>> -> switch off the discrete GPU
>> -> start Wayland
>> -> system runs - Note: I tried this for couple of days with 4.6 and 4.7 mainline
>> and the system freezed randomly after some time.
>> However I have to test if this is still present with 4.7.2
>> and 4.8 mainline. Right now it seams to be fine.
>> -> running Xwayland (does not depend on the GPU power state) kills performance!
>> the system freezes for several seconds...
>> So working with Wayland is also no solution.
>>
>> My conclusion:
>>
>> 1. Nouveau has couple of problems with GTX 9** M Nvidia GPUs.
>> I would love to help here.
>>
>> 2. X11 is just broken and is not capable to start the graphical session
>> if the nvidia GPU is not handled by any video driver (kernel module).
>> Even forcing X11 to ignore the discrete GPU doesn't help.
>>
> Out of curiosity: how did you force X to ignore the device ?
>
>> Setting the command line arguments to:
>>
>> acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2009"
>>
>> fixes the issues with X11 but other things break...
>> What the hell is going on?! :/
>>
> You can check if it's the boot_vga assumption with
>
[Sorry about that] ...
cat /sys/class/drm/card*/device/{boot_vga,vendor}
If the output changes them my assumption holds true.
-Emil
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Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-29 21:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-29 21:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-29 22:00 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-30 02:00 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 12:20 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2016-08-30 15:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 16:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 17:30 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 17:50 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 17:50 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 17:50 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 19:40 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 19:50 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-30 20:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-08-30 20:20 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-30 21:30 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:20 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:20 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 20:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 20:20 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:00 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-30 22:00 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 13:30 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-31 13:50 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 14:30 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl> - 2016-08-31 14:40 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 15:20 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 22:10 +0200
Re: Kernel Freeze with American Megatrends BIOS Roland Singer <roland.singer@desertbit.com> - 2016-08-31 22:20 +0200
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