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| From | "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.kernel |
| Subject | Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier |
| Date | 2016-08-30 03:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sbFSx-6rD-7@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On August 29, 2016 4:55:02 PM PDT, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote: >On Aug 29, 2016 7:54 AM, "Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2016-08-28 at 01:11 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> > On Aug 25, 2016 9:06 PM, "Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Subject: x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier >> > > >> > > Lazy TLB mode can result in an idle CPU being woken up for a TLB >> > > flush, when all it really needed to do was flush %cr3 before the >> > > next context switch. >> > > >> > > This is mostly fine on bare metal, though sub-optimal from a >power >> > > saving point of view, and deeper C states could make TLB flushes >> > > take a little longer than desired. >> > > >> > > On virtual machines, the pain can be much worse, especially if a >> > > currently non-running VCPU is woken up for a TLB invalidation >> > > IPI, on a CPU that is busy running another task. It could take >> > > a while before that IPI is handled, leading to performance >issues. >> > > >> > > This patch is still ugly, and the sched.h include needs to be >> > > cleaned >> > > up a lot (how would the scheduler people like to see the context >> > > switch >> > > blocking abstracted?) >> > > >> > > This patch deals with the issue by introducing a third tlb state, >> > > TLBSTATE_FLUSH, which causes %cr3 to be flushed at the next >> > > context switch. A CPU is transitioned from TLBSTATE_LAZY to >> > > TLBSTATE_FLUSH with the rq lock held, to prevent context >switches. >> > > >> > > Nothing is done for a CPU that is already in TLBSTATE_FLUH mode. >> > > >> > > This patch is totally untested, because I am at a conference >right >> > > now, and Benjamin has the test case :) >> > > >> > >> > I haven't had a chance to seriously read the code yet, but what >> > happens when the mm is deleted outright? Or is the idea that a >> > reference is held until all the lazy users are gone, too? >> >> Worst case we send a TLB flush to a CPU that does >> not need it. >> >> As not sending an IPI will be faster than sending >> one, I do not think the tradeoff will be much >> different for a system with PCID. > >If we were fully non-lazy, we wouldn't need to send these IPIs at all, >right? We would just keep cr3 pointing at swapper_pg_dir when not >actively using the mm. The problem with doing that without PCID is >that cr3 writes are really slow. Or am I missing something? Writing cr3 on a PCID system doesn't (necessarily) flush the TLB context. The whole reason for PCIDs is to *enable* lazy TLB by not making it necessary to flush a TLB context during the running of another process. As such, this methodology should help a PCID system even more: we can remember if we need to flush a TLB context during the scheduling of said task, without needing any IPI. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse brevity and formatting.
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[PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-25 21:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-25 22:00 +0200
[PATCH RFC v2] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-25 22:20 +0200
[PATCH RFC v3] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-25 23:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v3] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-08-27 10:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v3] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-08-28 01:10 +0200
[PATCH RFC v4] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-30 22:00 +0200
[PATCH RFC v5] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-30 23:10 +0200
[PATCH RFC v6] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-31 18:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v6] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-09-08 09:00 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v6] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Benjamin Serebrin <serebrin@google.com> - 2016-09-09 02:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v6] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-09 06:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v6] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-09-09 09:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC v3] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-29 17:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> - 2016-08-26 00:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-08-28 10:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2016-08-29 17:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-08-30 02:00 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> - 2016-08-30 03:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH RFC UGLY] x86,mm,sched: make lazy TLB mode even lazier Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-08-30 20:30 +0200
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