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| From | Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.kernel |
| Subject | Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` |
| Date | 2016-11-30 19:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sJhkJ-Ij-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 06:05:57PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 30-11-16 17:38:20, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 06:29:55AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > We can, and you are correct that cond_resched() does not unconditionally
> > > supply RCU quiescent states, and never has. Last time I tried to add
> > > cond_resched_rcu_qs() semantics to cond_resched(), I got told "no",
> > > but perhaps it is time to try again.
> >
> > Well, you got told: "ARRGH my benchmark goes all regress", or something
> > along those lines. Didn't we recently dig out those commits for some
> > reason or other?
> >
> > Finding out what benchmark that was and running it against this patch
> > would make sense.
See commit:
4a81e8328d37 ("rcu: Reduce overhead of cond_resched() checks for RCU")
Someone actually wrote down what the problem was.
> > Also, I seem to have missed, why are we going through this again?
>
> Well, the point I've brought that up is because having basically two
> APIs for cond_resched is more than confusing. Basically all longer in
> kernel loops do cond_resched() but it seems that this will not help the
> silence RCU lockup detector in rare cases where nothing really wants to
> schedule. I am really not sure whether we want to sprinkle
> cond_resched_rcu_qs at random places just to silence RCU detector...
Right.. now, this is obviously all PREEMPT=n code, which therefore also
implies this is rcu-sched.
Paul, now doesn't rcu-sched, when the grace-period has been long in
coming, try and force it? And doesn't that forcing include prodding CPUs
with resched_cpu() ?
I'm thinking not, because if it did, that would make cond_resched()
actually schedule, which would then call into rcu_note_context_switch()
which would then make RCU progress, no?
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Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-11-27 10:20 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-11-28 12:10 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-11-28 13:30 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-11-30 11:30 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 12:20 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-11-30 12:50 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-12-02 10:20 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-12-06 09:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 13:00 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> - 2016-11-30 13:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 15:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 13:00 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 14:20 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 15:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-11-30 17:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 18:10 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 18:30 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 18:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-11-30 19:00 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 22:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-12-01 06:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-12-01 13:50 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-12-01 17:40 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-12-01 18:00 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-12-01 19:20 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-12-01 19:50 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-12-01 20:00 +0100
Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-30 18:10 +0100
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