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Re: [PATCH v2] perf/x86/amd: Make HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and HW_CACHE_MISSES measure L2

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On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 02:12:08PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:
> While the Intel PMU monitors the LLC when perf enables the
> HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and HW_CACHE_MISSES events, these events monitor
> L1 instruction cache fetches (0x0080) and instruction cache misses
> (0x0081) on the AMD PMU.
> 
> This is extremely confusing when monitoring the same workload across
> Intel and AMD machines, since parameters like,
> 
>   $ perf stat -e cache-references,cache-misses
> 
> measure completely different things.
> 
> Instead, make the AMD PMU measure instruction/data cache and TLB fill
> requests to the L2 and instruction/data cache and TLB misses in the L2
> when HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and HW_CACHE_MISSES are enabled,
> respectively. That way the events measure unified caches on both
> platforms.

I'm still not really sure about this: we can't really compare L3 to L2
access patterns - it is almost as comparing apples to oranges. Can we
use the Intel L2 events instead?

I mean, this makes much more sense to me because:

* you *actually* compare the same cache levels
* you have L2 *everywhere* vs L3 (and L4) which are sometimes not present on
  thin clients

People who want LLC can enable them with -e additionally...

Hmmm.

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    Boris.

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[PATCH v2] perf/x86/amd: Make HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and HW_CACHE_MISSES measure L2 Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 15:20 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v2] perf/x86/amd: Make HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and  HW_CACHE_MISSES measure L2 Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-08-24 17:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2] perf/x86/amd: Make HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and  HW_CACHE_MISSES measure L2 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-08-24 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] perf/x86/amd: Make HW_CACHE_REFERENCES and  HW_CACHE_MISSES measure L2 Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-08-25 06:40 +0200

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