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Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)]

From One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)]
Date 2016-08-14 18:10 +0200
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:34:18 +0800
Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since when it is expected that SATA disks will always be probed before
> USB disks? We can't guarantee that even if we make sure all ata
> drivers are loaded before usb-storage/uas. That's why we need
> consistent namings (e.g. /dev/disk/by-id/*).

It hasn't. It isn't even true on older kernels and can depend on all
sorts of things. I have boxes that will put the USB first, and a 10
second google search says I'm not alone

http://serverfault.com/questions/322946/ensure-usb-disk-is-never-sda-even-when-booting-from-it

So your "regression" goes back to at least 2011.

Alan

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Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem) Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 10:40 +0200
  Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem) james harvey <jamespharvey20@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 11:10 +0200
    Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem) Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 11:10 +0200
      Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem) james harvey <jamespharvey20@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 23:50 +0200
    Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem) Bob Tracy <rct@gherkin.frus.com> - 2016-08-14 15:40 +0200
  Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking boot.  [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 11:30 +0200
    Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 11:40 +0200
      Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:10 +0200
        Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 12:20 +0200
          Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] David Lang <david@lang.hm> - 2016-08-14 12:40 +0200
            Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 13:00 +0200
              Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com> - 2016-08-14 16:20 +0200
            Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-08-14 14:00 +0200
              Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 14:10 +0200
                Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-08-14 16:20 +0200
                Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-08-14 17:00 +0200
                Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 18:20 +0200
          Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 13:20 +0200
            Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 13:50 +0200
      Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 12:10 +0200
      Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2016-08-14 18:10 +0200
    Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 12:20 +0200
      Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 18:10 +0200
        Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2016-08-14 20:00 +0200
          Re: Regression - SATA disks behind USB ones on v4.8-rc1, breaking  boot. [Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem)] Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> - 2016-08-14 20:30 +0200
  Re: Who reordered my disks (probably v4.8-rc1 problem) "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 17:10 +0200

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