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Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm: apply more __ro_after_init

From Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm: apply more __ro_after_init
Date 2016-08-11 18:00 +0200
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On Thursday, August 11, 2016 12:06:45 AM CEST Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 09:41:23PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > It might be better to start by making the fixed mapping readonly,
> > as KASLR doesn't protect that one at all, and change the TLS
> > code accordingly.
> 
> I think that's impossible, because we gave userspace permission to
> read 0xffff0ff0 directly without using __kuser_get_tls.  You're
> talking about potentially breaking userspace.
> 
> If you disable kuser helpers, then the page becomes read-only and
> invisible to userspace anyway.  So, everything is being done there
> which can be done - if you have kuser helpers enabled, then you
> lose some opportunities for these security improvements.

What I meant was writing to the page through the linear mapping
rather than the virtual mapping at 0xffff0000 so we can leave that
one read-only (I did not consider whether that might cause cache
aliasing problems when reading from the other address).

Your other point is more important though: if one really cares
about optimizing security here, they probably should disable
kuser helpers completely anyway.

Kees, is that something you have on your radar already?

	Arnd

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Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm: apply more __ro_after_init Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> - 2016-08-11 01:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm: apply more __ro_after_init Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2016-08-11 18:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm: apply more __ro_after_init Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-08-12 00:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm: apply more __ro_after_init Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> - 2016-08-12 18:30 +0200

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