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Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by WRITE_ONCE

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On 05/23/2016 02:46 PM, Jason Low wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-05-21 at 09:04 -0700, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> On 05/18/2016 12:58 PM, Jason Low wrote:
>>> It should be fine to use the standard READ_ONCE here, even if it's just
>>> for documentation, as it's probably not going to cost anything in
>>> practice. It would be better to avoid adding any special macros for this
>>> which may just add more complexity.
>> See, I don't understand this line of reasoning at all.
>>
>> I read this as "it's ok to be non-optimal here where were spinning CPU
>> time but not ok to be non-optimal generally elsewhere where it's
>> way less important like at init time".
> So I think there is a difference between using it during init time and
> using it here where we're spinning. During init time, initializing the
> owner field locklessly is normal. No other thread should be concurrently
> be writing to the field, since the structure is just getting
> initialized, so there are no surprises there.
>
> Our access of the owner field in this function is special in that we're
> using a bit of "lockless magic" to read and write to a field that gets
> concurrently accessed without any serialization. Since we're not taking
> the wait_lock in a scenario where we'd normally would take a lock, it
> would be good to have this documented.
>
>> And by the way, it's not just "here" but _everywhere_.
>> What about reading ->on_cpu locklessly?
> Sure, we could also use READ_ONCE when reading ->on_cpu  :)
>

As on_cpu is just a boolean, load tearing isn't really a problem. You 
either see the bit 0 set or not, but not something in between (not a 
qbit)  :-)

Cheers,
Longman

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[PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by WRITE_ONCE() Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hpe.com> - 2016-05-18 03:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE() Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-05-18 16:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE() Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com> - 2016-05-18 19:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com> - 2016-05-18 19:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com> - 2016-05-18 22:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com> - 2016-05-20 00:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2016-05-21 18:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-05-22 12:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com> - 2016-05-23 20:50 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-05-23 21:50 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-05-23 22:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> - 2016-05-23 23:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] locking/rwsem: Protect all writes to owner by  WRITE_ONCE Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com> - 2016-05-25 03:30 +0200

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