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Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency and identical stores

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----- On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:00 AM, Paul E. McKenney paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

> The summary of the "CONTROL DEPENDENCIES" section incorrectly states that
> barrier() may be used to prevent compiler reordering when more than one
> leg of the control-dependent "if" statement start with identical stores.
> This is incorrect at high optimization levels.  This commit therefore
> updates the summary to match the detailed description.
> 
> Reported by: Jianyu Zhan <nasa4836@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> ---
> Documentation/memory-barriers.txt | 10 +++++++---
> 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> index 904ee42d078e..e26058d3e253 100644
> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> @@ -800,9 +800,13 @@ In summary:
>       use smp_rmb(), smp_wmb(), or, in the case of prior stores and
>       later loads, smp_mb().
> 
> -  (*) If both legs of the "if" statement begin with identical stores
> -      to the same variable, a barrier() statement is required at the
> -      beginning of each leg of the "if" statement.
> +  (*) If both legs of the "if" statement begin with identical stores to
> +      the same variable, then those stores must be ordered, either by
> +      preceding both of them with smp_mb() or by using smp_store_release()
> +      to carry out the stores.  Please note that it is -not- sufficient
> +      to use barrier() at beginning of each leg of the "if" statement,
> +      as optimizing compilers do not necessarily respect barrier()
> +      in this case.

Hrm, I really don't understand this one.

One caveat, as stated here, would be that optimizing compilers
can reorder instruction with respect to barrier() placed at the
beginning of if/else legs that start with identical stores.

It goes on stating that "smp_mb() or smp_store_release()" should
be used rather than barrier() in those cases.

I don't get how, from a compiler optimization perspective,
barrier() is any different from smp_mb().

#define barrier() __asm__ __volatile__("": : :"memory")

vs

#define mb()    asm volatile("mfence":::"memory")

What the compiler would observe is a "memory" clobber in both
cases.

Now if the stated cause of this issue would have been
internal reordering of those identical stores within the
processor, I would understand that smp_mb() has an
effect which differs from the compiler barrier, but since
the paragraph begins by stating that this is purely for
compiler optimizations, I'm confused.

What am I missing there ?

Thanks,

Mathieu


> 
>   (*) Control dependencies require at least one run-time conditional
>       between the prior load and the subsequent store, and this
> --
> 2.5.2

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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[PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/14] Documentation updates for 4.6 "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/14] documentation:  Add real-time requirements from CPU-bound workloads "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/14] documentation: Clarify compiler store-fusion example "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/14] documentation: Document illegality of call_rcu() from offline CPUs "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/14] documentation: Distinguish between local and global transitivity "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/14] documentation: Remove obsolete reference to RCU-protected indexes "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/14] documentation:  Add alternative release-acquire outcome "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/14] documentation: Transitivity is not cumulativity "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/14] documentation: Add synchronize_rcu_mult() to the requirements "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:10 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/14] documentation: Explain how RCU's combining tree fights contention "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:20 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/14] documentation: Explain why rcu_read_lock() needs no barrier() "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:20 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/14] documentation: Fix memory-barriers.txt section references "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:20 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency and identical stores "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control  dependency and identical stores Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> - 2016-02-24 22:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 22:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores Jianyu Zhan <nasa4836@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 07:50 +0100
          Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-25 15:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-02-25 09:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-25 15:10 +0100
            Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-02-25 15:50 +0100
              Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/14] documentation: Fix control dependency  and identical stores "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-25 16:50 +0100
  [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/14] documentation: Subsequent writes ordered by rcu_dereference() "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-02-24 06:20 +0100

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