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Re: kdbus refactoring?

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Hi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 09:34:37AM +0100, David Herrmann wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
>> > Quoting Documentation/development-process/1.Intro:
>> [...]
>> >> Years of experience with the kernel development community have taught a
>> >> clear lesson: kernel code which is designed and developed behind closed
>> >> doors invariably has problems which are only revealed when the code is
>> >> released into the community.  Sometimes these problems are severe,
>> >> requiring months or years of effort before the code can be brought up to
>> >> the kernel community's standards.
>> [...]
>> > And I've seen you specifically recommend having such conversations early
>> > and often.
>>
>> I think comparing kdbus to "behind closed doors" development models is
>> unfair. We chose to center our development around DBus, not the
>> kernel.
>
> And yet it will be the kernel people you ask to take your code. You
> don't see something funny with that?

No.

>> Anybody who is interested in kdbus discussions could have
>> easily joined the DBus and systemd communication channels (and *many*
>> people did). I see little reason in cross-posting everything to LKML,
>> especially given that our communication is rarely mail-based.
>
> So you want to develop kernel code, but can't be arsed to do it the
> kernel way? Gheez, no wonder this all is going so well..

The submission and following year of development followed the 'kernel
way'. I don't see why the design phase needs to follow your style,
though.

Thanks
David
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  Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:40 +0100
    Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-09 00:40 +0100
      Re: kdbus refactoring? Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2015-11-09 02:00 +0100
        Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-09 09:40 +0100
        Re: kdbus refactoring? David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:40 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-11-09 09:50 +0100
            Re: kdbus refactoring? David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:00 +0100
              Re: kdbus refactoring? Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2015-11-09 10:10 +0100
              Re: kdbus refactoring? David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:20 +0100
                Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-09 10:30 +0100
                Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-09 16:10 +0100
                Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-09 17:00 +0100
              Re: kdbus refactoring? Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-11-09 10:20 +0100
      Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:20 +0100
      Re: kdbus refactoring? Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-09 18:00 +0100
        Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-09 18:10 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2015-11-09 18:20 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-09 18:30 +0100
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        Re: kdbus refactoring? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2015-11-09 18:10 +0100
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