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Re: console vs earlycon ?

From Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: console vs earlycon ?
Date 2015-10-21 16:20 +0200
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On Wednesday 21 October 2015 09:53:47 Peter Hurley wrote:
> On 10/21/2015 06:36 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 October 2015 18:30:05 Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am trying to implement OF_EARLYCON_DECLARE() for that.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was just wondering if console_initcall() should work as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said, I noticed the console_initcall() in 8250_core.c
> >>>> only works on very limited platforms.
> >>>
> >>> It works with all those that use of_serial.c, right?
> >>
> >> I doubt it.
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a board with a pure 8250-compat device working.
> >> (  compatible = "ns16550a")
> >> It uses of_serial.c, of course.
> >>
> >>
> >> As far as I tested, it would never enable the console at console_init().
> > 
> > Ok, that sounds like a bug. Peter and others have changed that code
> > a lot in the last year. I wonder if this has never worked then or
> > if it has regressed.
> 
> No, not a bug. console_init() is only for legacy platforms, not for
> probed drivers.

Ah, I had no idea we were moving in this direction. So I guess the idea
is not to add another for_each_compatible_node() loop when we already have
two places (earlycon and tty) in the code that do this?

> > * arch/powerpc/kernel/legacy_serial.c does everything we need, but
> >   does not live in architecture independent code and does a few
> >   things that we probably don't need or want there. It relies
> >   on scanning the device tree for known UART device nodes before
> >   the platform devices are added.
> > 
> > * for console_initcall() to do the right thing, we want both the
> >   ttyS devices to get added early for console=ttyS1 to work, as well
> >   as having the preferred console work based on the stdout-property.
> > 
> > * we parse the /chosen/stdout-path property in drivers/of/base and
> >   store the device node pointer in the global 'of_stdout' variable,
> >   but do not use it until the uart is added by the tty driver
> >   and calls of_console_check() to add the default console device.
> 
> I'm assuming the issue with trying to get console_init() working
> is because the dummy color console causes the earlycon to be disabled?

I don't think so.

My line of thinking was more about usability: earlycon requires that
you edit the kernel command line at the moment, while console_init()
doesn't require any user interaction and just uses the stdout-path.

I guess we could enable earlycon using a Kconfig symbol if we want
to, or make it a per-architecture decision whether it's enabled even
in the absence of the command line flag.

	Arnd
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console vs earlycon ? Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> - 2015-10-21 10:30 +0200
  Re: console vs earlycon ? Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2015-10-21 11:00 +0200
    Re: console vs earlycon ? Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> - 2015-10-21 11:10 +0200
      Re: console vs earlycon ? Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2015-10-21 11:30 +0200
        Re: console vs earlycon ? Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> - 2015-10-21 11:40 +0200
          Re: console vs earlycon ? Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2015-10-21 12:40 +0200
            Re: console vs earlycon ? Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2015-10-21 16:00 +0200
              Re: console vs earlycon ? Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2015-10-21 16:20 +0200
                Re: console vs earlycon ? Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2015-10-21 17:40 +0200
                Re: console vs earlycon ? Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2015-10-21 21:10 +0200
                Re: console vs earlycon ? Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2015-10-21 21:30 +0200
                Re: console vs earlycon ? Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2015-10-22 01:00 +0200
  Re: console vs earlycon ? Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> - 2015-10-21 15:30 +0200
    Re: console vs earlycon ? Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> - 2015-10-22 06:50 +0200

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