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Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order

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Am 17.10.2015 um 21:36 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 09:14:34PM +0200, Alexander Holler wrote:
>> Am 17.10.2015 um 21:08 schrieb Linus Torvalds:
>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That isn't a flag day thing. It's a config option everyone can turn on and
>>>> off whenever he wants.
>>>
>>> That's a flag-day thing. We've done it (drm comes to mind - several times).
>>>
>>> I'm disappointed, because I _know_ I pointed you in the direction of
>>> stable sorting about a month ago. I really had hoped you'd have taken
>>> that into account.
>>
>> It's impossible to take it into account because I don't want to miss the
>> parallelize functionality. And without that, all the stuff doesn't offer
>> enough benefits to be worse the effort but just adds some time necessary to
>> do the sorting. It might solve the deferred probe problems, but without much
>> benefit.
>
> Again, parallelizing does not solve anything, and causes more problems
> _and_ makes things take longer.  Try it, we have done it in the past and
> proven this, it's pretty easy to test :)

I've tested it, otherwise I wouldn't have posted the patches.

Unfortunately it's quiet a lot of work to add dependencies for everything.

So maybe I'm able to offer some better numbers in a year or such, when I 
was bored often enough to add more dependencies for initcalls.

Not to mention that small changes in the order can have quiet big 
differences in the boot time, so it's quiet hard to parallelize stuff 
(add dependencies) correctly like e.g. the pci/acpi/processor stuff. 
Especially because many reasons for the current order aren't mentioned 
in the source and are hard to see without specific knowledge about the HW.

Alexander Holler
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[PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 20:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:00 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 22:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 23:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 23:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
  [PATCH 03/14] init: deps: dt: use (HW-specific) dependencies provided by the DT too Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 06/14] dtc: deps: Automatically add new property 'dependencies' which contains a list of referenced phandles Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 07/14] dtc: deps: introduce new (virtual) property no-dependencies Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 09/14] dtc: deps: Add option to print dependency graph as dot (Graphviz) Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 02/14] init: deps: use annotated initcalls for a dependency based (optionally parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 01/14] init: deps: introduce annotated initcalls Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 14/14] dt: dts: deps: omap: beagle: make some remote-endpoints non-dependencies Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:30 +0200
  [PATCH 13/14] dt: dts: deps: imx6q: make some remote-endpoints non-dependencies Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:30 +0200
  [PATCH 12/14] dt: dts: deps: kirkwood: dockstar: add dependency ehci -> usb power regulator Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 19:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 20:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 22:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 22:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 11/14] init: deps: annotate various initcalls Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 20:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 11/14] init: deps: annotate various initcalls Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200

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