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Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order

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Am 17.10.2015 um 21:03 schrieb Linus Torvalds:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
>>
>> Otherwise it's impossible to call initcalls in parallel. I've seen a stable
>> topological sort somewhere, but whenever you want to parallelize the
>> initcalls, the stable ordering would be gone anyway. So I've decided not to
>> look further at a stable topological sort.
>
> So five seconds of googling gave me freely usable source code for a
> stable topological sort, that also has a nice reported added
> advantage:
>
>   "An interesting property of a stable topological sort is that cyclic
> dependencies are tolerated and resolved according to original order of
> elements in sequence. This is a desirable feature for many
> applications because it allows to sort any sequence with any
> imaginable dependencies between the elements"
>
> which seems to be *exactly* what you'd want, especially considering
> that right now your patches add extra "no-dependency" markers exactly
> because of the cyclical problem.

That's the stable topological sort I've mentioned the link to in the 
discussion with you.

>
> I think it was the #2 hit on google for "stable topological sort". I
> didn't look closely at the source code, but it was not big.
>
> And no, since we don't actually want to parallelize the initcalls
> anyway (I had this discussion with you just a month ago), your
> objections seem even more questionable. We have separate machinery for
> "do this asynchronously", and we want to _keep_ that separate.

I've understood that now.

Sorry for wasting your time.

Alexander Holler
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[PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 20:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:00 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 22:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 23:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 23:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200
  [PATCH 03/14] init: deps: dt: use (HW-specific) dependencies provided by the DT too Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 06/14] dtc: deps: Automatically add new property 'dependencies' which contains a list of referenced phandles Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 07/14] dtc: deps: introduce new (virtual) property no-dependencies Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 09/14] dtc: deps: Add option to print dependency graph as dot (Graphviz) Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 02/14] init: deps: use annotated initcalls for a dependency based (optionally parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 01/14] init: deps: introduce annotated initcalls Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:20 +0200
  [PATCH 14/14] dt: dts: deps: omap: beagle: make some remote-endpoints non-dependencies Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:30 +0200
  [PATCH 13/14] dt: dts: deps: imx6q: make some remote-endpoints non-dependencies Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:30 +0200
  [PATCH 12/14] dt: dts: deps: kirkwood: dockstar: add dependency ehci -> usb power regulator Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 19:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 19:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 20:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 20:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-17 22:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 0/14] init: deps: dependency based (parallelized) init Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 22:40 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 11/14] init: deps: annotate various initcalls Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-10-17 20:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 11/14] init: deps: annotate various initcalls Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> - 2015-10-17 21:10 +0200

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