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Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu

From	Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu
Date	2015-08-13 20:10 +0200
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13.08.2015 20:17, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> wrote:
>
>> Ah, I see your point now.
>> But that's not what I mean, as it doesn't cover fs/gs, which
>> is what Linus is looking to revert now too (I am building the
>> testing kernels now).
>> So you obviously don't want the flag that will control all 3
>> things together without any lar heuristics, but I don't understand why...
>> Yes, your heuristic+uc_flag may work, but IMHO far from
>> perfection and TLS problem is not covered. I can test such
>> a patch but I don't understand why you don't want the flag
>> that will just control all things together.
> The fs/gs patch doesn't change anything, so there's nothing to
> control.  It just renamed fields that did nothing.  (It turns out they
> did something back before arch_prctl existed, but there's only a
> narrow range of kernels like that, and I'm not at all convinced that
> those kernels are ABI-compatible with modern kernels at all.  This is
> all pre-git.)
The problem is that dosemu existed back then too.
It still uses these fields as a place-holders. Well, this is a
compile-time breakage only, so perhaps not as important
as the run-time one, but still, you broke it in yet another way.

> Sure, it might make sense to change TLS behavior in signals at some
> point, but I don't think we're there yet.  We need to deal with
> fsgsbase first, and that's a *huge* can of worms.
My point is not when to fix TLS or how.
But you can get the flag ready, for now controlling only SS
and fixing the regression, but it will define the course of the
further developments. When the time will come, it will cover
also TLS, but why not to get such a flag ready now, without
yet fixing TLS?
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[regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered to  64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 02:20 +0200
  Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 02:40 +0200
    Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 10:30 +0200
      Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 18:20 +0200
        Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 19:10 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 20:30 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 21:00 +0200
              Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 21:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 22:00 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 22:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 22:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 22:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 22:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 23:00 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-12 23:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 00:00 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 00:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals  delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-08-13 10:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 12:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 14:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 17:00 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 17:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 17:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 18:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 18:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 18:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 18:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 19:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 19:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 19:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 20:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 20:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 20:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 18:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 13:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-12 22:50 +0200
  Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 17:40 +0200
    Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 17:50 +0200
      Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 18:20 +0200
        Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 18:30 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 18:40 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 18:50 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 18:50 +0200
      Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 19:10 +0200
        Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-18 08:40 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-19 00:50 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-19 11:40 +0200
              Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-19 17:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-19 18:40 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-19 00:50 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-19 12:20 +0200
              Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-19 17:40 +0200
      Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals  delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:20 +0200
    Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 20:00 +0200
      Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 20:40 +0200
        Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 20:50 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 21:10 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 21:50 +0200
              Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 22:20 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 22:00 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals  delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 22:10 +0200
              Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 22:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 23:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 23:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 00:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 00:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-14 01:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-14 01:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 01:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 01:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-14 02:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 00:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 00:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 00:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 00:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 01:00 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 01:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 01:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 02:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 02:20 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-14 02:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 03:00 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 03:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 03:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 04:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-18 08:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 03:40 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-14 02:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-14 02:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-14 02:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-14 02:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals  delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 09:30 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com> - 2015-08-14 12:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals  delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 13:00 +0200
        Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 21:00 +0200
          Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-08-13 21:10 +0200
            Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 21:20 +0200
              Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 21:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-08-13 22:10 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-18 08:50 +0200
                Re: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered  to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2015-08-13 22:10 +0200

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