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  Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page  and stops Markos <markos@c2o.pro.br> - 2019-03-17 19:40 +0100
    Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first  printed page and stops Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-03-18 09:30 +0100
    Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed  page and stops "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-03-18 11:10 +0100
      Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed  page and stops Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-03-18 20:40 +0100
        Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed  page and stops "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-03-18 21:50 +0100
          Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed  page and stops Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-03-18 22:00 +0100
            Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed  page and stops "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-03-18 22:10 +0100
              Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed  page and stops Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-03-18 23:40 +0100
                Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-19 08:20 +0100
                  Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first  printed page and stops Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-19 09:40 +0100

#206290 — Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

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Hi,

I am having problems with my HP Laserjet 1020 printer installed in 
Debian 9 "Stretch".
I installed the drivers from: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/

||bash$ | wget |-O | /|foo2zjs.tar.gz 
http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz|/|
||bash$ | tar |-xzvf | /|foo2zjs.tar.gz |/|
||bash$ | cd /|foo2zjs |/|
||bash$ | make |
||bash$ | ./getweb 1020 |

and

||bash# | make /|install |/|
||bash# | make /|install-hotplug
|/|

...

It worked normally for about 5 years, but suddenly started the following 
problem:

When I print multiple pages, it prints only the first page and pulls a 
second blank sheet until the half of the sheet and stops.

To remove the sheet I need to turn off, remove the toner cartridge and 
pull the sheet.

Any tip about what may be the cause of this problem?

Thanks,

Markos

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#206295 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:09:57 -0300
Markos <markos@c2o.pro.br> wrote:

Hello Markos,

>I installed the drivers from: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/

They offer their own support.  Whilst you can get assistance here,
you'll probably get better support from them.

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#206297 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

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On 17.03.2019 23:09, Markos wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am having problems with my HP Laserjet 1020 printer installed in
> Debian 9 "Stretch".
> I installed the drivers from: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
>
> ||bash$ | wget |-O | /|foo2zjs.tar.gz
> http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz|/|
> ||bash$ | tar |-xzvf | /|foo2zjs.tar.gz |/|
> ||bash$ | cd /|foo2zjs |/|
> ||bash$ | make |
> ||bash$ | ./getweb 1020 |
>
> and
>
> ||bash# | make /|install |/|
> ||bash# | make /|install-hotplug
> |/|
>
> ...
>
> It worked normally for about 5 years, but suddenly started the
> following problem:
>
> When I print multiple pages, it prints only the first page and pulls a
> second blank sheet until the half of the sheet and stops.
>
> To remove the sheet I need to turn off, remove the toner cartridge and
> pull the sheet.
>
> Any tip about what may be the cause of this problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Markos
>
>
>
Why not use officially supported driver from HP [1] [2], instead of so
me fishy package that states "DON'T USE the foo2zjs package from: *
Debian *" on their website.
At least you can expect from HP driver to work as intended, because your
printer model is supported. I didn't used it myself, but it looks
promising and at least sane thing to try.
And if printer still won't work normally, well I've suspected a hardware
problem from the very beginning. It could be a wear on some small parts
in paper feeding area and/or some sensor is triggering during printing
procedure.
One way to test if printer itself is working, is to print a few test
pages from printer itself, without connection to a computer(or network
in case of printer with NIC).

[1] https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip
[2]
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install/install/index

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#206332 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

On Mon 18 Mar 2019 at 15:05:43 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

> On 17.03.2019 23:09, Markos wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am having problems with my HP Laserjet 1020 printer installed in
> > Debian 9 "Stretch".
> > I installed the drivers from: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
> >
> > ||bash$ | wget |-O | /|foo2zjs.tar.gz
> > http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz|/|
> > ||bash$ | tar |-xzvf | /|foo2zjs.tar.gz |/|
> > ||bash$ | cd /|foo2zjs |/|
> > ||bash$ | make |
> > ||bash$ | ./getweb 1020 |
> >
> > and
> >
> > ||bash# | make /|install |/|
> > ||bash# | make /|install-hotplug
> > |/|
> >
> > ...
> >
> > It worked normally for about 5 years, but suddenly started the
> > following problem:
> >
> > When I print multiple pages, it prints only the first page and pulls a
> > second blank sheet until the half of the sheet and stops.
> >
> > To remove the sheet I need to turn off, remove the toner cartridge and
> > pull the sheet.
> >
> > Any tip about what may be the cause of this problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Markos
> >
> >
> >
> Why not use officially supported driver from HP [1] [2], instead of so
> me fishy package that states "DON'T USE the foo2zjs package from: *
> Debian *" on their website.
> At least you can expect from HP driver to work as intended, because your
> printer model is supported. I didn't used it myself, but it looks
> promising and at least sane thing to try.
> And if printer still won't work normally, well I've suspected a hardware
> problem from the very beginning. It could be a wear on some small parts
> in paper feeding area and/or some sensor is triggering during printing
> procedure.
> One way to test if printer itself is working, is to print a few test
> pages from printer itself, without connection to a computer(or network
> in case of printer with NIC).
> 
> [1] https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip
> [2]
> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install/install/index

The advice is good but is there a good reason to advocate installing
hplip from source rather than from the stretch package?

-- 
Brian.

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#206335 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

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On 19.03.2019 0:38, Brian wrote:
> The advice is good but is there a good reason to advocate installing
> hplip from source rather than from the stretch package?
>
I didn't advocated per se the installation of upstream package, the
point was to tell OP of it's existence, among the other things.
As I stated before, I never used hplip myself, but it's good to know it
is already in official repositories.

$ rmadison -s stretch,stretch-backports hplip
hplip      | 3.16.11+repack0-3      | stable            | source, amd64,
arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
hplip      | 3.18.12+dfsg0-2~bpo9+1 | stretch-backports | source, amd64,
arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x

I would recommend to install upstream package only if the most recent
version of it is absolutely required and I highly doubt it is required
in this case.
But even then, personally, I'd try to build a backport from source
package available from 'experimental' first, or build from a tarball and
use tools, like 'checkinstall', to make a simple deb package.
Those procedures are right thing to do, but it's for the users to decide
if they are up for the task, because these procedures often require
serious time investment and expertise.

-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.

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#206336 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

On Tue 19 Mar 2019 at 01:45:20 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

> On 19.03.2019 0:38, Brian wrote:
> > The advice is good but is there a good reason to advocate installing
> > hplip from source rather than from the stretch package?
> >
> I didn't advocated per se the installation of upstream package, the
> point was to tell OP of it's existence, among the other things.
> As I stated before, I never used hplip myself, but it's good to know it
> is already in official repositories.

You could have checked beforehand.
> 
> $ rmadison -s stretch,stretch-backports hplip
> hplip      | 3.16.11+repack0-3      | stable            | source, amd64,
> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> hplip      | 3.18.12+dfsg0-2~bpo9+1 | stretch-backports | source, amd64,
> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> 
> I would recommend to install upstream package only if the most recent
> version of it is absolutely required and I highly doubt it is required
> in this case.

You doubt correctlly.

> But even then, personally, I'd try to build a backport from source
> package available from 'experimental' first, or build from a tarball and
> use tools, like 'checkinstall', to make a simple deb package.
> Those procedures are right thing to do, but it's for the users to decide
> if they are up for the task, because these procedures often require
> serious time investment and expertise.

Unnecessary. Backports already exist. It's only a matter of checking.

-- 
Brian.

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#206337 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

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On 19.03.2019 1:56, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 19 Mar 2019 at 01:45:20 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>
>> On 19.03.2019 0:38, Brian wrote:
>>> The advice is good but is there a good reason to advocate installing
>>> hplip from source rather than from the stretch package?
>>>
>> I didn't advocated per se the installation of upstream package, the
>> point was to tell OP of it's existence, among the other things.
>> As I stated before, I never used hplip myself, but it's good to know it
>> is already in official repositories.
> You could have checked beforehand.
There are so many things in my life I'd like to check beforehand.
>> $ rmadison -s stretch,stretch-backports hplip
>> hplip      | 3.16.11+repack0-3      | stable            | source, amd64,
>> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
>> hplip      | 3.18.12+dfsg0-2~bpo9+1 | stretch-backports | source, amd64,
>> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
>>
>> I would recommend to install upstream package only if the most recent
>> version of it is absolutely required and I highly doubt it is required
>> in this case.
> You doubt correctlly.
>
>> But even then, personally, I'd try to build a backport from source
>> package available from 'experimental' first, or build from a tarball and
>> use tools, like 'checkinstall', to make a simple deb package.
>> Those procedures are right thing to do, but it's for the users to decide
>> if they are up for the task, because these procedures often require
>> serious time investment and expertise.
> Unnecessary. Backports already exist. It's only a matter of checking.
>
The latest version of hplip (3.19.1) is only available in 'experimental'
for now, so backport of it for stretch doesn't exist. You'd know that
it's only matter of checking. :)

-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.

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⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
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#206341 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

On Tue 19 Mar 2019 at 02:08:17 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

> On 19.03.2019 1:56, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 19 Mar 2019 at 01:45:20 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> >
> >> On 19.03.2019 0:38, Brian wrote:
> >>> The advice is good but is there a good reason to advocate installing
> >>> hplip from source rather than from the stretch package?
> >>>
> >> I didn't advocated per se the installation of upstream package, the
> >> point was to tell OP of it's existence, among the other things.
> >> As I stated before, I never used hplip myself, but it's good to know it
> >> is already in official repositories.
> > You could have checked beforehand.
> There are so many things in my life I'd like to check beforehand.

On Debian:

apt search hplip

I do not know if that applies to all the other things in your life you
want to know about.

> >> $ rmadison -s stretch,stretch-backports hplip
> >> hplip      | 3.16.11+repack0-3      | stable            | source, amd64,
> >> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> >> hplip      | 3.18.12+dfsg0-2~bpo9+1 | stretch-backports | source, amd64,
> >> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> >>
> >> I would recommend to install upstream package only if the most recent
> >> version of it is absolutely required and I highly doubt it is required
> >> in this case.
> > You doubt correctlly.
> >
> >> But even then, personally, I'd try to build a backport from source
> >> package available from 'experimental' first, or build from a tarball and
> >> use tools, like 'checkinstall', to make a simple deb package.
> >> Those procedures are right thing to do, but it's for the users to decide
> >> if they are up for the task, because these procedures often require
> >> serious time investment and expertise.
> > Unnecessary. Backports already exist. It's only a matter of checking.
> >
> The latest version of hplip (3.19.1) is only available in 'experimental'
> for now, so backport of it for stretch doesn't exist. You'd know that
> it's only matter of checking. :)

Experimental packages (by their very nature) are not backported.

In any case, what good is it supposed to do for this ancient printer?

-- 
Brian.

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#206346 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

Brian wrote:

> Experimental packages (by their very nature) are not backported.
> 
> In any case, what good is it supposed to do for this ancient printer?

For me it was hard decision to give up the old HP 5L, but comparing to newer
models everything was outstanding - power consumption, speed,
maintenance .... only the capacity of the cartridge vs. price was worse ...
It looks like newer models have smaller and more expensive cartridges. Does
it correlate with the speed?

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#206348 — Re: Printer pull half of a second blank page after the first printed page and stops

On 2019-03-19, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
>> Experimental packages (by their very nature) are not backported.
>> 
>> In any case, what good is it supposed to do for this ancient printer?
>
> For me it was hard decision to give up the old HP 5L, but comparing to newer
> models everything was outstanding - power consumption, speed,
> maintenance .... only the capacity of the cartridge vs. price was worse ...
> It looks like newer models have smaller and more expensive cartridges. Does
> it correlate with the speed?
>

I believe there's a direct proportionality with the speed of expenditure.

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