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  hammerfall help request Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 16:40 +0200
    Re: hammerfall help request Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 22:50 +0200
      Re: hammerfall help request Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 21:10 +0200
        Re: hammerfall help request Thomas Amm <debili@open-email.net> - 2018-08-20 21:30 +0200
    Re: hammerfall help request Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> - 2018-08-16 05:00 +0200
      Re: hammerfall help request Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 21:00 +0200
        Re: hammerfall help request Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> - 2018-08-17 01:20 +0200
          Re: hammerfall help request Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 02:20 +0200
            Re: hammerfall help request Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> - 2018-08-17 07:20 +0200

#198823 — hammerfall help request

Buster, RME Hammerfall, Supermicro box

I can't get my RME Hammerfall sound card to make noise in the
headphones. It did a few weeks ago with pretty much the same hardware
and pretty much the same OS.

I replaced the DDR3 1066 RAM with DDR3 1333, and I updated Buster.

I've tried to do what I did before to get the RME going, but either I
can't remember what I did or something has changed so it doesn't work
anymore (I doubt it).

lspci sees the card, as does alsamixer and the HDSP utilities in
XFCE's multimedia menu (HDSPmixer and HDSPconf):

root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i hammerfall
02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall
DSP (rev 97)

If I open an audio file in Audacity, I see the 'meters' bounce, but
there's nothing in the 'phones.

I've looked at everything I can find on the web and done what they
suggest. I've installed modules and listed them -- they all seem to be
there:

root@sbox:~# cat /proc/modules | egrep hdsp
snd_hdsp 69632 0 - Live 0xffffffffc0997000
snd_rawmidi 40960 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp, Live 0xffffffffc08b8000
snd_hwdep 20480 2 snd_hdsp,snd_hda_codec, Live 0xffffffffc073c000
snd_pcm 118784 5
snd_hdsp,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core,
Live 0xffffffffc0922000
snd 94208 17 snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer,
Live 0xffffffffc0895000

And I've checked to make sure the 'phones are plugged in. Looks OK,
but I think I remember hearing small clicks when I plugged them in
before. All quiet now. Even if I'm remembering correctly, the lack of
clicks could be due to having something set wrong.

I really think there's something I haven't done, but I can't figure
out what. Anybody have any ideas?

-- 
Glenn English

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#198831

I've been totally unsystematic about this problem in my machines
(granted with wheezy and jessie), but what I've found is that simply
starting the alsamixer app and re-raising the volume "fixes" the
issue. Until it happens again, for reasons which I could never
determine. Now if you don't have alsa installed or active, you
should........I don't know.....
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:31 AM Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Buster, RME Hammerfall, Supermicro box
>
> I can't get my RME Hammerfall sound card to make noise in the
> headphones. It did a few weeks ago with pretty much the same hardware
> and pretty much the same OS.
>
> I replaced the DDR3 1066 RAM with DDR3 1333, and I updated Buster.
>
> I've tried to do what I did before to get the RME going, but either I
> can't remember what I did or something has changed so it doesn't work
> anymore (I doubt it).
>
> lspci sees the card, as does alsamixer and the HDSP utilities in
> XFCE's multimedia menu (HDSPmixer and HDSPconf):
>
> root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i hammerfall
> 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall
> DSP (rev 97)
>
> If I open an audio file in Audacity, I see the 'meters' bounce, but
> there's nothing in the 'phones.
>
> I've looked at everything I can find on the web and done what they
> suggest. I've installed modules and listed them -- they all seem to be
> there:
>
> root@sbox:~# cat /proc/modules | egrep hdsp
> snd_hdsp 69632 0 - Live 0xffffffffc0997000
> snd_rawmidi 40960 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp, Live 0xffffffffc08b8000
> snd_hwdep 20480 2 snd_hdsp,snd_hda_codec, Live 0xffffffffc073c000
> snd_pcm 118784 5
> snd_hdsp,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core,
> Live 0xffffffffc0922000
> snd 94208 17 snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer,
> Live 0xffffffffc0895000
>
> And I've checked to make sure the 'phones are plugged in. Looks OK,
> but I think I remember hearing small clicks when I plugged them in
> before. All quiet now. Even if I'm remembering correctly, the lack of
> clicks could be due to having something set wrong.
>
> I really think there's something I haven't done, but I can't figure
> out what. Anybody have any ideas?
>
> --
> Glenn English
>

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#198886

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Nicholas Geovanis
<nickgeovanis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been totally unsystematic about this problem in my machines
> (granted with wheezy and jessie), but what I've found is that simply
> starting the alsamixer app and re-raising the volume "fixes" the
> issue.

Doesn't seem to work in Colorado :-)

> Now if you don't have alsa installed or active, you
> should........I don't know.....

Alsa seems to be installed (alsamixer exists and sees all the sound hardware).

But I'm not sure it's 'active'. I'd thing the fact that alsamixer is
live would indicate that it's active. I guess I don't know what
'active' means. Do you know how to find out?

-- 
Glenn English

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#199104

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:00:06 +0000
Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Nicholas Geovanis
> <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I've been totally unsystematic about this problem in my machines
> > (granted with wheezy and jessie), but what I've found is that simply
> > starting the alsamixer app and re-raising the volume "fixes" the
> > issue.  
> 
> Doesn't seem to work in Colorado :-)
> 
> > Now if you don't have alsa installed or active, you
> > should........I don't know.....  
> 
> Alsa seems to be installed (alsamixer exists and sees all the sound
> hardware).
> 
> But I'm not sure it's 'active'. I'd thing the fact that alsamixer is
> live would indicate that it's active. I guess I don't know what
> 'active' means. Do you know how to find out?
> 

Hammerfalls use to be somewhat difficult with their firmware. I had to
build my own from fairly old ALSA sources. Also, for cardbus based cards
the firmware must be loaded and the card initialized at boot time. 
Have you tried using hdsploader and HDSPConf? 

-- 
If I had a letter, sealed it in a locked vault and hid the vault
somewhere in New York. Then told you to read the letter, thats not
security, thats obscurity. If I made a letter, sealed it in a vault,
gave you the blueprints of the vault, the combinations of 1000 other
vaults, access to the best lock smiths in the world, then told you to
read the letter, and you still can't, thats security.
 -- Bruce Schneier

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#198839

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 02:30:01PM +0000, Glenn English wrote:
> Buster, RME Hammerfall, Supermicro box
> 
> I can't get my RME Hammerfall sound card to make noise in the
> headphones. It did a few weeks ago with pretty much the same hardware
> and pretty much the same OS.
> 
> I replaced the DDR3 1066 RAM with DDR3 1333, and I updated Buster.
> 
> I've tried to do what I did before to get the RME going, but either I
> can't remember what I did or something has changed so it doesn't work
> anymore (I doubt it).
> 
> lspci sees the card, as does alsamixer and the HDSP utilities in
> XFCE's multimedia menu (HDSPmixer and HDSPconf):
> 
> root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i hammerfall
> 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall
> DSP (rev 97)
> 
> If I open an audio file in Audacity, I see the 'meters' bounce, but
> there's nothing in the 'phones.
> 
> I've looked at everything I can find on the web and done what they
> suggest. I've installed modules and listed them -- they all seem to be
> there:
> 
> root@sbox:~# cat /proc/modules | egrep hdsp
> snd_hdsp 69632 0 - Live 0xffffffffc0997000
> snd_rawmidi 40960 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp, Live 0xffffffffc08b8000
> snd_hwdep 20480 2 snd_hdsp,snd_hda_codec, Live 0xffffffffc073c000
> snd_pcm 118784 5
> snd_hdsp,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core,
> Live 0xffffffffc0922000
> snd 94208 17 snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer,
> Live 0xffffffffc0895000
> 
> And I've checked to make sure the 'phones are plugged in. Looks OK,
> but I think I remember hearing small clicks when I plugged them in
> before. All quiet now. Even if I'm remembering correctly, the lack of
> clicks could be due to having something set wrong.
> 
> I really think there's something I haven't done, but I can't figure
> out what. Anybody have any ideas?
> 
> -- 
> Glenn English

cat /proc/asound/cards 

-- 
Joel Roth
  

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#198884

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:42 AM, Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> wrote:

> cat /proc/asound/cards

root@sbox:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xfb6d8000 irq 51
 1 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
                      HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfb8bc000 irq 52
 2 [DSP            ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP
                      RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632 at 0xfb7f0000, irq 16

That's pretty much what I've seen with all the other card-listers --
two Intels and one RME. Next?

-- 
Glenn English

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#198898

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 06:50:10PM +0000, Glenn English wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:42 AM, Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > cat /proc/asound/cards
> 
> root@sbox:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
>                       HDA Intel at 0xfb6d8000 irq 51
>  1 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
>                       HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfb8bc000 irq 52
>  2 [DSP            ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP
>                       RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632 at 0xfb7f0000, irq 16
> 
> That's pretty much what I've seen with all the other card-listers --
> two Intels and one RME. Next?

Unmute and adjust signal levels 

    alsamixer -c 2

Test playback

    aplay -D hw:2,0 testfile.wav

> -- 
> Glenn English
> 

-- 
Joel Roth
  

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#198900

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:09 PM, Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> wrote:

> Unmute and adjust signal levels
>
>     alsamixer -c 2

Comes up in curses with the RME selected and a single slider: DDS
Samp. I raised that a couple steps with the 'up-arrow' button and
exited.

> Test playback
>
>     aplay -D hw:2,0 testfile.wav

There is no testfile.wav, so I gave it one of mine:

root@sbox:~# aplay -D hw:2,0
/blackHole/cdp/BeethovenSix/source_dir/disk001/track02.cdda.wav
Playing WAVE '/blackHole/cdp/BeethovenSix/source_dir/disk001/track02.cdda.wav'
: Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
aplay: set_params:1334: Access type not available

Went into HDSPmixer and set it to preset 2 (like I did before to get
the 'phones to work) and tried again. Still nothing. Files like this
have worked before, in Audacity.

Not sure what aplay means by 'Access type not available' so I looked
on the web. I still don't.

But 'aplay -L' says, about the RME:

default:CARD=DSP
    Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=DSP
    Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
    Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
    Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
    Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
    Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
    Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
    Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
    Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
    Hardware device with all software conversions

if that's any help.

-- 
Glenn English

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#198908

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:12:22AM +0000, Glenn English wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:09 PM, Joel Roth <joelz@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > Unmute and adjust signal levels
> >
> >     alsamixer -c 2
> 
> Comes up in curses with the RME selected and a single slider: DDS
> Samp. I raised that a couple steps with the 'up-arrow' button and
> exited.
> 
> > Test playback
> >
> >     aplay -D hw:2,0 testfile.wav
> 
> There is no testfile.wav, so I gave it one of mine:
> 
> root@sbox:~# aplay -D hw:2,0
> /blackHole/cdp/BeethovenSix/source_dir/disk001/track02.cdda.wav
> Playing WAVE '/blackHole/cdp/BeethovenSix/source_dir/disk001/track02.cdda.wav'
> : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
> aplay: set_params:1334: Access type not available

Hmmm.

> Went into HDSPmixer and set it to preset 2 (like I did before to get
> the 'phones to work) and tried again. Still nothing. Files like this
> have worked before, in Audacity.

Looks like you may have to dig into the documentation. This
is a professional card, with some special capabilities 
and complexities.

I also suggest you search the Linux Audio Users mailing list
archives. It's an excellent resource for any Linux audio
issues.

> Not sure what aplay means by 'Access type not available' so I looked
> on the web. I still don't.
> 
> But 'aplay -L' says, about the RME:
> 
> default:CARD=DSP
>     Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
>     Default Audio Device
> sysdefault:CARD=DSP
>     Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
>     Default Audio Device
> dmix:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
>     Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
>     Direct sample mixing device
> dsnoop:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
>     Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
>     Direct sample snooping device
> hw:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
>     Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
>     Direct hardware device without any conversions
> plughw:CARD=DSP,DEV=0
>     Hammerfall DSP, RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632
>     Hardware device with all software conversions
> 
> if that's any help.
 
The items are audio devices that can be used as 
a -D argument to aplay.

> -- 
> Glenn English
> 

-- 
Joel Roth
  

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