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  A minimal relational database in Debian? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 14:20 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-02-27 14:30 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-02-27 15:20 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-02-27 15:50 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? James Allsopp <jamesaallsopp@googlemail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:50 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-27 14:50 +0100
      A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 16:00 +0100
        Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in  Debian?] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-02-27 16:50 +0100
          Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 17:50 +0100
            Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in  Debian?] sunrise <sunrise@emypeople.net> - 2017-02-27 21:20 +0100
              Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-27 21:50 +0100
              Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
            Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-27 21:50 +0100
              Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-28 03:50 +0100
                Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2017-02-28 04:40 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-02-27 19:10 +0100
    an answer plus minimal font size (was: A minimal relational  database in Debian? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-02-27 20:50 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-28 01:10 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-28 04:00 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2017-03-01 00:30 +0100
        Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 00:50 +0100
          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-03-01 09:10 +0100
            Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-01 10:50 +0100
            font sizes in LibreOffice (was Re: A minimal relational database in  Debian) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-01 12:20 +0100
            Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 13:40 +0100
              Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 14:50 +0100
                Contributing [was: A minimal relational database in Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 15:00 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-03-01 15:10 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-03-01 15:20 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-03-01 15:50 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-01 16:10 +0100
                  Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 16:50 +0100
                    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-01 17:40 +0100
            Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 13:40 +0100
              Re: bad LibreOffice font sizes (was: A minimal relational data...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-01 14:10 +0100
              Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:20 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 16:00 +0100
                  Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 21:40 +0100
                    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-03 09:50 +0100
                      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-03 10:50 +0100
                        Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-03-03 19:00 +0100
                          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-03 22:00 +0100
                      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-03 11:20 +0100
                        Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-03 12:50 +0100
          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100
          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100

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#178244

On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.

You prompted me to look.  As you say, it is unusable and ctrl-+ has no effect 
at all.  It is clearly illegal under UK Law (Equality Act 2010), but that is 
not much help!!

Have you tried the online help at the Libre Office site?  
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
That is often very good - and the font size can be governed by your browser.

Lisi

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#178303 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.

Would temporarily changing your dpi settings work, the help is
perfectly legible here, but I have increased dpi (96 > 132) rather than
font size as it is an across the board improvement for my monitor size.

Regards
Dom.

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#178304 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 02/28/2017 05:06 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
> On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
>> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
>
> Would temporarily changing your dpi settings work, the help is
> perfectly legible here, but I have increased dpi (96 > 132) rather than
> font size as it is an across the board improvement for my monitor size.
>

Not sure it would be worth the annoyance.
If this problem is representative of their workmanship ...

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#178307 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

Richard Owlett wrote on 03/01/17 00:45:
> On 02/28/2017 05:06 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
>> On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
>>> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
>>
>> Would temporarily changing your dpi settings work, the help is
>> perfectly legible here, but I have increased dpi (96 > 132) rather than
>> font size as it is an across the board improvement for my monitor size.
>>
> 
> Not sure it would be worth the annoyance.
> If this problem is representative of their workmanship ...
> 
How about this answer:

How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar and dropdown
meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/

For me this works:
Go to Tools > Options. Under LibreOffice, select View. Then find the Scaling
option under User Interface. The default value is 100%. Increase this number
until the font size is functional for you.

Regards,
jvp.

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#178310 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 2017-03-01, Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> wrote:
>
> For me this works:
> Go to Tools > Options. Under LibreOffice, select View. Then find the Scaling
> option under User Interface. The default value is 100%. Increase this number
> until the font size is functional for you.

This worked for me; however, I found that the scaling maxed out at 130%
(in other words, I could not increase scaling beyond that percentage).

> Regards,
> jvp.
>

-- 
"It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the
far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs.
Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To
the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.

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#178312 — font sizes in LibreOffice (was Re: A minimal relational database in Debian)

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Could you please change the Subject going forward?


-- 
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

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#178314 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

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On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 06:33:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

[...]

> >How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar and dropdown
> >meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
> >https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/
> 
> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*

How about filing a bug report? That won't solve your problem
*right now*, but... you know, giving back and that.

regards
- -- tomás
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#178318 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 03/01/2017 06:37 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 06:33:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar and dropdown
>>> meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
>>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/
>>
>> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
>> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
>> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
>> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
>> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
>
> How about filing a bug report? That won't solve your problem
> *right now*, but... you know, giving back and that.
>

I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense. It's more likely a 
logical outgrowth of some basic design decisions made to meet the 
perceived needs of a target audience. I'm not a part of that audience. I 
found too many other things that grated during my (admittedly surface) 
survey of LibreOffice.

If I decide to investigate further, I suspect Felix's post may give an 
adequate workaround. Right now I'm attempting to learn debootstrap. I 
hope to be able to contribute a rewrite of "D.3. Installing Debian 
GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System" from _Debian GNU/Linux Installation 
Guide_ aimed at a less experienced audience. Even retired, there are 
just so many hours in a day ;/

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#178319 — Contributing [was: A minimal relational database in Debian]

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On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 07:48:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/01/2017 06:37 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> >How about filing a bug report? That won't solve your problem
> >*right now*, but... you know, giving back and that.

> I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense  [...]

It looks like one, to me. Even a delibeerate design decision may
turn out (20/20 and that) to be... unfortunate.

> If I decide to investigate further, I suspect Felix's post may give
> an adequate workaround. Right now I'm attempting to learn
> debootstrap. I hope to be able to contribute a rewrite of "D.3.
> Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System" from _Debian
> GNU/Linux Installation Guide_ aimed at a less experienced audience.
> Even retired, there are just so many hours in a day ;/

Fair enough.

Regards
- -- tomás
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#178320 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

Richard writes:
> I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense.

Wishlist bugs are generally welcome.

>  Even retired, there are just so many hours in a day ;/

The lst of projects grows to overflow the available time, doesn't it?
And I'm not even fully retired.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#178321 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

> I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense.

Sure looks like a bug to me (not being able to access the accept button
looks like a window manager bug, OTOH.  At least with the
window-manager I use (ctwm), I have it configured such that I can move
a window from anywhere to anywhere by grabbing it from anywhere (using
a particular key-combo instead).  I'd expect any window-manager worth my
time to have such functionality, specifically for these kinds of
situations where the borders are or need to be off-screen).

> It's more likely a logical outgrowth of some basic design decisions
> made to meet the perceived needs of a target audience.

Even their target audience will benefit from fixes to the kinds of
corner cases you bumped into.  And even if they decide not to fix it,
reporting these issues is always useful: the maintainers can then better
weigh the tradeoffs they make.

> Even retired, there are just so many hours in a day ;/

Some bug-reports are "fire and forget".  I think you could treat this
one this way.


        Stefan

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#178323 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

That is most definitely an accessibility bug and left uncorrected will 
effect many with marginal vision who try to use libreoffice.  What's 
worse it effects all of libreoffice.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, Richard Owlett wrote:

> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 08:48:37
> From: Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: A minimal relational database in Debian
> Resent-Date: Wed,  1 Mar 2017 13:49:24 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> On 03/01/2017 06:37 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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>> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 06:33:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>>>> How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar and 
>>>> dropdown
>>>> meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
>>>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/
>>> 
>>> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
>>> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
>>> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
>>> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
>>> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
>> 
>> How about filing a bug report? That won't solve your problem
>> *right now*, but... you know, giving back and that.
>> 
>
> I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense. It's more likely a 
> logical outgrowth of some basic design decisions made to meet the perceived 
> needs of a target audience. I'm not a part of that audience. I found too many 
> other things that grated during my (admittedly surface) survey of 
> LibreOffice.
>
> If I decide to investigate further, I suspect Felix's post may give an 
> adequate workaround. Right now I'm attempting to learn debootstrap. I hope to 
> be able to contribute a rewrite of "D.3. Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a 
> Unix/Linux System" from _Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide_ aimed at a less 
> experienced audience. Even retired, there are just so many hours in a day ;/
>
>
>
>
>

-- 

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#178325 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:48:37 -0600
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 03/01/2017 06:37 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> > On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 06:33:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >  
> >>> How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar
> >>> and dropdown meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
> >>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/  
> >>
> >> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font
> >> size. I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too
> >> large factor. Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT*
> >> accessible. Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
> >> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*  
> >
> > How about filing a bug report? That won't solve your problem
> > *right now*, but... you know, giving back and that.
> >  
> 
> I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense. It's more likely
> a logical outgrowth of some basic design decisions made to meet the 
> perceived needs of a target audience. I'm not a part of that
> audience. I found too many other things that grated during my
> (admittedly surface) survey of LibreOffice.

There is no target audience for text too small to read. It's a bug.
It's not a bug on my system (LO 5.2.5.1 on sid/Xfce4) because my Base
windows look like other windows, in terms of font size. That's not a
problem I've ever had with it. It may be an artefact of your window
manager and whatever graphics toolbox is in use.

Yes, LibreOffice and especially Base is buggy. You will use it if, even
with the bugs, you find it to be overall more useful than anything else
for some of your purposes, just as I do. Once this bug is fixed...

-- 
Joe

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#178326 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 03/01/2017 09:00 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:48:37 -0600
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
>> On 03/01/2017 06:37 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 06:33:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar
>>>>> and dropdown meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
>>>>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/
>>>>
>>>> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font
>>>> size. I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too
>>>> large factor. Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT*
>>>> accessible. Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
>>>> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
>>>
>>> How about filing a bug report? That won't solve your problem
>>> *right now*, but... you know, giving back and that.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure it's a "bug" in the "bug report" sense. It's more likely
>> a logical outgrowth of some basic design decisions made to meet the
>> perceived needs of a target audience. I'm not a part of that
>> audience. I found too many other things that grated during my
>> (admittedly surface) survey of LibreOffice.
>
> There is no target audience for text too small to read. It's a bug.
> It's not a bug on my system (LO 5.2.5.1 on sid/Xfce4) because my Base
> windows look like other windows, in terms of font size. That's not a
> problem I've ever had with it. It may be an artefact of your window
> manager and whatever graphics toolbox is in use.

That triggers another question to be investigated.
I'm using  LO 4.3.3.2 on Jessie(8.6.0)/MATE .
I do not have the bandwidth to do a Netinstall.
Would any bug I file get anything but "won't fix" since I'm so out of date?




>
> Yes, LibreOffice and especially Base is buggy. You will use it if, even
> with the bugs, you find it to be overall more useful than anything else
> for some of your purposes, just as I do. Once this bug is fixed...
>

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#178328 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:41:14 -0600
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

>
> 
> That triggers another question to be investigated.
> I'm using  LO 4.3.3.2 on Jessie(8.6.0)/MATE .
> I do not have the bandwidth to do a Netinstall.
> Would any bug I file get anything but "won't fix" since I'm so out of
> date?
> 
> 
Possibly, the issue would be whether it can be demonstrated on a recent
version, at least 5. I've never had this problem, and I've used Base
for some years, certainly during version 4, and possibly earlier.

It's probably worth submitting it, at worst it costs a few minutes. It
may be a matter of an unfortunate combination of graphics support
libraries that is still a problem with version 5 and that hasn't yet
been seen by anyone else. It's surprising how long a moderately serious
breakage of GTK can take to fix if it doesn't affect everyone. I've had
some long-term issues with it over the last few years, but of course,
this is sid. I believe it was a GTK problem that left Synaptic unusable
for weeks last year.

Base is improving fast, as I suppose it got left behind the rest of LO.
It is certainly more useful now than it was with version 4,
particularly in terms of database compatibility. It works natively with
MySQL now, I have a feeling version 4 mostly needed ODBC to talk to
anything. I hadn't realised you were that far behind with Jessie.

-- 
Joe

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#178315 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 03/01/2017 02:02 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote on 03/01/17 00:45:
>> On 02/28/2017 05:06 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
>>> On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
>>>> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
>>>
>>> Would temporarily changing your dpi settings work, the help is
>>> perfectly legible here, but I have increased dpi (96 > 132) rather than
>>> font size as it is an across the board improvement for my monitor size.
>>>
>>
>> Not sure it would be worth the annoyance.
>> If this problem is representative of their workmanship ...
>>
> How about this answer:
>
> How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar and dropdown
> meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/

Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
I consider LibreOffice *DOA*

>
> For me this works:
> Go to Tools > Options. Under LibreOffice, select View. Then find the Scaling
> option under User Interface. The default value is 100%. Increase this number
> until the font size is functional for you.
>
> Regards,
> jvp.
>
>
>

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#178316 — Re: bad LibreOffice font sizes (was: A minimal relational data...)

Richard Owlett composed on 2017-03-01 06:33 (UTC-0600):

> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

>> How do you increase fontsize on the LibeOffice (writer) toolbar and dropdown
>> meuns?? [closed] - Ask LibreOffice
>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/31736/how-do-you-increase-fontsize-on-the-libeoffice-writer-toolbar-and-dropdown-meuns/

> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*

It can be fixed. You can use xrandr to make your desktop larger than fits the 
screen. e.g. something like

	xrandr --fb 2560x1600 --panning 2560x1600

Reinstallation of the application wouldn't fix it. Removing ~/.libreoffice or 
~/.config/libreoffice or wherever it keeps its stuff should eliminate all saved 
LibreOffice settings as if it had never been installed.
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#178322 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
>
Try holding down the alt key and use the left mouse button.  It should allow you
to move the window anywhere on the screen so you can see the button that is off
screen.
>>
>> For me this works:
>> Go to Tools > Options. Under LibreOffice, select View. Then find the Scaling
>> option under User Interface. The default value is 100%. Increase this number
>> until the font size is functional for you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> jvp.
>>
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#178324 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 03/01/2017 08:19 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
>> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
>> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
>> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
>> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
>>
> Try holding down the alt key and use the left mouse button.  It should allow you
> to move the window anywhere on the screen so you can see the button that is off
> screen.

That allowed me to get to the buttons.
I was then able to read the "Help" for Base enough to discover it 
doesn't meet my needs as installed.

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#178330 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

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On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 08:53:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/01/2017 08:19 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
> >Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
> >>I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
> >>Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
> >>Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
> >>I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
> >>
> >Try holding down the alt key and use the left mouse button.  It should allow you
> >to move the window anywhere on the screen so you can see the button that is off
> >screen.

Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:

  https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
  https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
  https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/

In a nutshell: yes, version 4 allows resizing the menu font, up to 130%,
not more; version 5 uses the menu font theme from the environment (no
way to resize explicitly: change the theme).

It seems probable that the bug report will be met with a WONTFIX :-(

regards
- -- tomás
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