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  alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 06:10 +0200
    Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Frédéric Marchal <frederic.marchal@wowtechnology.com> - 2016-10-20 10:20 +0200
      Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 14:20 +0200
    Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 10:50 +0200
      Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 14:20 +0200
        Re: alt F2 in kde does not work rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-10-20 14:40 +0200
          Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:10 +0200
            Re: alt F2 in kde does not work rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-10-21 12:50 +0200
        Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 21:50 +0200
      Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-20 14:30 +0200
        Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:10 +0200
    Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-20 14:30 +0200
      Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-10-20 14:30 +0200
        Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-20 14:40 +0200
          Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-10-20 14:50 +0200
            Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-20 16:30 +0200
              Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-10-20 16:50 +0200
                Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-20 17:10 +0200
                  Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-10-20 17:30 +0200
                    Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-20 18:00 +0200
            Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:20 +0200
              Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2016-10-21 14:20 +0200
                Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 16:10 +0200
                  Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 16:40 +0200
          Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:20 +0200
        Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:10 +0200
      Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:00 +0200
        Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-21 08:40 +0200
          Re: alt F2 in kde does not work kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 16:00 +0200
            Re: alt F2 in kde does not work Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-10-22 16:20 +0200

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#173619 — alt F2 in kde does not work

When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
KDE?

My machine is a mixture of Stable and Testing.

% dpkg -l kde-full konsole
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                                   Version
Architecture             Description
+++-======================================-========================-========================-==================================================================================
ii  kde-full                               5:91
all                      complete KDE Software Compilation for end
users
ii  konsole                                4:16.04.2-1
amd64                    X terminal emulator

% inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main
contrib non-free
           deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates
main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates
main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main
contrib non-free

thanks
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

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#173624

On Thursday 20 October 2016 00:07:25 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
> KDE?

Have you checked the global keyboard shortcuts ?

Start the "System Settings". Click on the "Shortcuts and Gestures" icon. 
Select the "Global Keyboard Shortcut" section on the left. In The "Kde 
component" drop down list, select "Run Command Interface". On my KDE, the "Run 
Command" entry is set to Alt+F2.

Frederic

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#173628

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Frédéric Marchal
<frederic.marchal@wowtechnology.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 20 October 2016 00:07:25 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>> KDE?
>
> Have you checked the global keyboard shortcuts ?
>
> Start the "System Settings". Click on the "Shortcuts and Gestures" icon.
> Select the "Global Keyboard Shortcut" section on the left. In The "Kde
> component" drop down list, select "Run Command Interface". On my KDE, the "Run
> Command" entry is set to Alt+F2.
>

When I do K button -> "System Settings" there is no "Shortcuts and
Gestures" icon. Even if I search for "Shortcuts and Gestures" in the
search window on the top right of "System Settings" window, nothing
happens. What is the name of the program that runs "System Settings"?
Perhaps we can compare versions of the two between our systems.

thanks
raju

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#173625

On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
> KDE?

Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.

> My machine is a mixture of Stable and Testing.
>
> % dpkg -l kde-full konsole
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name                                   Version
> Architecture             Description
> +++-======================================-========================-========================-==================================================================================
> ii  kde-full                               5:91
> all                      complete KDE Software Compilation for end
> users
> ii  konsole                                4:16.04.2-1
> amd64                    X terminal emulator
>
> % inxi -r
> Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
>            deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
>            deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main
> contrib non-free
>            deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates
> main contrib non-free
>            deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates
> main contrib non-free
>            deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
>            deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main
> contrib non-free
>
> thanks
> raju
>


-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

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#173627

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:45 AM, Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>>
>> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>> KDE?
>
>
> Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.
>

That does not work for here. Ctrl+Alt+F2 takes me to the virtual
console 2. It is a black screen asking for login and password.

thanks
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

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#173633

> > On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> >> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
> >> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
> >> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
> >> KDE?

I don't know offhand, but have some questions:

   * Presumably you can start a konsole from the K menu using the mouse?

   * Can you start a konsole from within that konsole, by typing konsole at 
the prompt?  If not, does it work if you su to root?

   * Can you start any other applications from <alt><F2> textbox?

I suspect that your problem is not with the <alt>F2> functionaolity but 
instead with konsole, but answers to the above questions will help?

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#173675

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:31 AM,  <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know offhand, but have some questions:
>

Sure!

>    * Presumably you can start a konsole from the K menu using the mouse?

Yes. I can start konsole with K button -> Applications -> System -> konsole

>    * Can you start a konsole from within that konsole, by typing konsole at
> the prompt?  If not, does it work if you su to root?

It works. But there are some warnings on the original konsole when I do this.

rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % konsole
kf5.kcoreaddons.kaboutdata: Could not initialize the equivalent
properties of Q*Application: no instance (yet) existing.
Could not load profile from  "/usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/Shell.profile"


>    * Can you start any other applications from <alt><F2> textbox?

No. I see the same issue with all the applications when trying to
start with Alt + F2

thanks
raju
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#173682

On Friday, October 21, 2016 01:08:28 AM kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> No. I see the same issue with all the applications when trying to
> start with Alt + F2

Thanks for the reply, although I have no clue atm--sorry!

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#173660

On 10/20/2016 05:15 AM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:45 AM, Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>>>
>>> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>>> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>>> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>>> KDE?
>>
>>
>> Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.
>>
>
> That does not work for here. Ctrl+Alt+F2 takes me to the virtual
> console 2. It is a black screen asking for login and password.
>
> thanks
> raju

In gtk and kde Alt+F2 brings up the run dialog, it's easier for me to 
click on the icon from the Start-menu or or Quick-launch, but I'm a 
point and click guy.  I'll shut-up now. :)
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - XFCE4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda24
Registered Linux User #380263

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#173630

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 01:45:13 -0700
Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Jimmy,

>Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.

That's for something very different from what the OP is after, unless
I've misread the post.  AIUI, OP wants to run KDE's konsole (with a k),
not start a console (with a c).

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#173673

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 01:45:13 -0700
> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jimmy,
>
>>Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.
>
> That's for something very different from what the OP is after, unless
> I've misread the post.  AIUI, OP wants to run KDE's konsole (with a k),
> not start a console (with a c).
>

That is correct Brad. I am interested in starting konsole that comes
as part of KDE. I do not have any issues with the virtual console.

thanks
raju
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:07:25 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>KDE?

Is it just konsole that fails to run, or does the problem affect other
issued commands/programs?

If it's just konsole, there may be a konsole running that didn't quit
cleanly.  Check you system activity for a running konsole (I use
KSysGuard to check).  If konsole exists, kill it, then try issuing the
command via alt-f2 again.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#173631

Is konsole installed? It is a seperated package!

Hans

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:05 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>Is konsole installed? It is a seperated package!

Good point.

Although I get the impression that it once worked, but doesn't now.  I
could be mistaken in that belief, of course.

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#173634

And not forget to mention: Alt-F2 does not start konsole (on all my systems), 
it starts a little input window, where I have to / can input my wanted command 
(like konsole, or xterm whatever)

Best

Hans

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:42:31 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>And not forget to mention: Alt-F2 does not start konsole (on all my
>systems), it starts a little input window, where I have to / can input
>my wanted command (like konsole, or xterm whatever)

Which is exactly what the OP was expecting to happen.  Again, IIUC.

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#173636

Am Donnerstag, 20. Oktober 2016, 15:15:49 CEST schrieb Brad Rogers:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:42:31 +0200

> Which is exactly what the OP was expecting to happen.  Again, IIUC.
Ok, I understand. Maybe this will help:

I sometimes in the past had had the problem, that konsole did not want to 
start. However, it worked, when I started Alt-F2, then started Xterm. Within 
xterm I could start konsole, which did not want to start from the icon.

This also got the advantage, that I  saw any error messages and saw what 
happened. When this does not show enough information, you can start konsole 
with strace (strace konsole). Mostly then konsole started. If it is starting, 
then close everything and REBOOT (do not just start kde again, reboot!)

Maybe it is a rights problem? Just do "su -p" and you can start any 
application, even graphical apps, as a normal user. Maybe this shows also more 
information.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Happy hacking!

Hans

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:40:23 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I sometimes in the past had had the problem, that konsole did not want
>to start. However, it worked, when I started Alt-F2, then started
>Xterm. Within xterm I could start konsole, which did not want to start
>from the icon.

This sounds much like I experienced too.  I discovered that killing a
konsole that shut down improperly was the culprit.  I've never got to
the bottom of it(1) but finding, and killing that konsole, with KSysGuard
solved the problem.

(1)  Sometimes, konsole crashed on exit, but I'm not 100% sure that this
was always the case when konsole would not start subsequently(2).

(2)  The problem hasn't occurred here for several months, so I've not
been able to check.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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#173638

Hi Brad, 
> This sounds much like I experienced too.  I discovered that killing a
> konsole that shut down improperly was the culprit.  I've never got to
> the bottom of it(1) but finding, and killing that konsole, with KSysGuard
> solved the problem.
> 
yeah, ksysguard is one of my favourite tools. It is working, even when kill -9 
something does not work. Don't know, how they managed, to be able to do this. 
Great tool!

> (1)  Sometimes, konsole crashed on exit, but I'm not 100% sure that this
> was always the case when konsole would not start subsequently(2).
> 

Confirmed. I believe, something is left over, when konsole is not ended 
properly. By starting konsole again, I think, these parts are overwritten and 
deleted when the next normal ending of konsole was initiated.
> (2)  The problem hasn't occurred here for several months, so I've not
> been able to check.

Also confirmed. I am running debian/testing and konsole is starting well for 
months. 

Sometimes too often :-) (I suppose, you know about the bug with konsole and 
nvidia driver).

Best

Hans

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:21:21 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>Sometimes too often :-) (I suppose, you know about the bug with konsole
>and nvidia driver).

No, I didn't.  I did a quick search to find out.  Since I always close
konsole by typing 'exit' (several reports it reduces the likelihood
of the problem arising) rather than by simply closing the window, I may
have got lucky and avoided the problem.

I *do* have an nVidia GPU, BTW.   :-)

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What the hell has this place done for me?
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