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  Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 22:50 +0100
    Re: Uninstalling Gnome Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-28 23:30 +0100
    Re: Uninstalling Gnome Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-28 23:40 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 10:20 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-29 14:10 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-29 14:10 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:40 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 17:00 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-29 17:10 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 17:20 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-11-29 18:10 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-29 18:50 +0100
              Re: Uninstalling Gnome Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-29 20:00 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2016-11-30 05:20 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-29 19:00 +0100
    Re: Uninstalling Gnome Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 23:40 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 12:50 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-11-29 13:30 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-11-29 14:00 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:10 +0100
              Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:30 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:10 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:30 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 20:50 +0100
    Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:40 +0100
    Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome) Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 00:50 +0100
      Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-11-30 01:30 +0100
        Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 05:30 +0100
        Re: Manually installed packages Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-11-30 14:50 +0100
          Re: Manually installed packages David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-12-01 17:10 +0100
            Re: Manually installed packages Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-12-01 18:10 +0100
              Re: Manually installed packages Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 19:40 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-12-01 20:10 +0100
                  Re: Manually installed packages Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 14:40 +0100
                  Re: Manually installed packages kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 19:00 +0100
                  Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:50 +0100
                    Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-04 11:00 +0100
                      Re: Manually installed packages Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 13:00 +0100
                        Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-04 13:10 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-01 20:50 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-01 22:00 +0100
            Re: Manually installed packages Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:20 +0100
          Re: Manually installed packages Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 18:30 +0100
      Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-11-30 09:50 +0100

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#175227

Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:

> Curt <curty@free.fr> writes:
>
>> On 2016-11-29, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
>>> On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and
>>>>> unneeded) packages from your system.
>>>>
>>>> I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to remove
>>>> some packages that I use a lot, like, e.g., musixtex and pmx.  So it
>>>> doesn't seem to be very reliable...
>>>
>>> Well, it was a guess.
>>>
>>> I think you're going to be obliged to cherry pick the software you want
>>> to hold on to, e.g. 'apt-mark manuel pmx'.
>>>
>>> Or I believe you can perform an 'apt-get install pmx musixtex' etc for a
>>> similar if not identical result.
>>
>> Maybe an identical result actually.
>
>
> Both show that the package is already installed.  What do you mean?


Mmmm...  I begin to understand...

Rodolfo

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#175237

On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
> Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all Debian users.
>>>
>>> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome
>>> as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space,
>>> now I want to remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used
>>> any more but am not sure what of them I may delete without
>>> perturbing the system.  How can I know?  More in general, is there a
>>> way to know what packages one is not using and so can be removed?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>
>>> Rodolfo
>>>
>>>
>>
>> See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and
>> unneeded) packages from your system.
>
>
> I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to
> remove some packages that I use a lot, like, e.g., musixtex and pmx.
> So it doesn't seem to be very reliable...
>
> Rodolfo

The deborphan command identifies those packages which other packages do
not require. It doesn't "know" which packages you use. The
identification of unwanted packages among those listed by deborphan is
done by you.

-- 

Liam

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#175239

Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all Debian users.
>>>>
>>>> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome
>>>> as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space,
>>>> now I want to remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used
>>>> any more but am not sure what of them I may delete without
>>>> perturbing the system.  How can I know?  More in general, is there a
>>>> way to know what packages one is not using and so can be removed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and
>>> unneeded) packages from your system.
>>
>>
>> I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to
>> remove some packages that I use a lot, like, e.g., musixtex and pmx.
>> So it doesn't seem to be very reliable...
>>
>> Rodolfo
>
> The deborphan command identifies those packages which other packages do
> not require. It doesn't "know" which packages you use. The
> identification of unwanted packages among those listed by deborphan is
> done by you.


Then deborphan can't be of help for my problem...

Rodolfo

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#175245

On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
> Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all Debian users.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome
>>>>> as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space,
>>>>> now I want to remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used
>>>>> any more but am not sure what of them I may delete without
>>>>> perturbing the system.  How can I know?  More in general, is there a
>>>>> way to know what packages one is not using and so can be removed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rodolfo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and
>>>> unneeded) packages from your system.
>>>
>>>
>>> I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to
>>> remove some packages that I use a lot, like, e.g., musixtex and pmx.
>>> So it doesn't seem to be very reliable...
>>>
>>> Rodolfo
>>
>> The deborphan command identifies those packages which other packages do
>> not require. It doesn't "know" which packages you use. The
>> identification of unwanted packages among those listed by deborphan is
>> done by you.
>
>
> Then deborphan can't be of help for my problem...
>
> Rodolfo

You can use it to identify those GNOME packages which can be safely
removed, which I thought was the point of your original post. Running
deborphan again will reveal another layer of GNOME packages which have
become candidates for removal. You can do the whole thing interactively
by running 'orphaner -a' as root.

-- 

Liam

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#175229

Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:

> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my
> Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space, now I want to
> remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure
> what of them I may delete without perturbing the system.  How can I know?
> More in general, is there a way to know what packages one is not using and so
> can be removed?


As far as I understand up to now, from you listers' kind replies, I could
safely remove all those packages that are at the same time marked as
automatically installed *and* orphans.  Is that the case?  If so, what tool can
give me those information?

Thanks, cheers,

Rodolfo

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#175253 — Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome)

Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:

> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my
> Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space, now I want to
> remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure
> what of them I may delete without perturbing the system.  How can I know?
> More in general, is there a way to know what packages one is not using and so
> can be removed?


If I run `apt-mark showmanual', a list of packages is ouput that are supposed
to have been manually installed on my system but that actually I don't at all
remember ever installing neither do I believe they truly have been nay I'm sure
they haven't...  Any people could explain that?

Thanks, Cheers

Rodolfo

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#175255 — Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome)

On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 23:45:51 (+0000), Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my
> > Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox.  To free space, now I want to
> > remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure
> > what of them I may delete without perturbing the system.  How can I know?
> > More in general, is there a way to know what packages one is not using and so
> > can be removed?
> 
> 
> If I run `apt-mark showmanual', a list of packages is ouput that are supposed
> to have been manually installed on my system but that actually I don't at all
> remember ever installing neither do I believe they truly have been nay I'm sure
> they haven't...  Any people could explain that?

apt-mark showmanual   gives you the complement of   apt-mark showauto.
The second paragraph of apt-mark's description explains what's meant
by "auto". So "manual" doesn't mean what you appear to assume it does,
that you were involved in manually selecting it for installation. It
just means "not auto".

Cheers,
David.

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#175261 — Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome)

On 11/29/16, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 23:45:51 (+0000), Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>
>> If I run `apt-mark showmanual', a list of packages is ouput that are
>> supposed
>> to have been manually installed on my system but that actually I don't at
>> all
>> remember ever installing neither do I believe they truly have been nay I'm
>> sure
>> they haven't...  Any people could explain that?
>
> apt-mark showmanual   gives you the complement of   apt-mark showauto.
> The second paragraph of apt-mark's description explains what's meant
> by "auto". So "manual" doesn't mean what you appear to assume it does,
> that you were involved in manually selecting it for installation. It
> just means "not auto".


I just played along here by running apt-mark. I received back a LONG
list that is "fine by me", i.e. nothing to sweat over on my end,
because of how upgrading has been going lately. That "no sweat"
reaction is because David's response brought back to mind that I see
the following sometimes after running "apt-get install" for an already
up-to-date package::

+++++
libilmbase12 is already the newest version (2.2.0-11).
libilmbase12 set to manually installed.
+++++

I had to work hard to find something that wasn't on the list apt-mark
had just given me. /var/log/apt/history.log.1 was my friend there.

Everything else that I tried turned out to already be on the apt-mark
generated list. Attempts at "accidentally" installing packages already
on the apt-mark list all simply responded back with the "is already
the newest version" line.

It's tied in. libilmbase12 was NOT in my initial apt-mark showmanual
query response. It IS on that list now.

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with plastic sporks *

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#175274 — Re: Manually installed packages

> apt-mark showmanual   gives you the complement of   apt-mark showauto.
> The second paragraph of apt-mark's description explains what's meant
> by "auto". So "manual" doesn't mean what you appear to assume it does,
> that you were involved in manually selecting it for installation. It
> just means "not auto".

To me "auto" means "not manually", so I'm just as confused as Rodolfo
and I think for good reasons.  There might be technical reasons behind
the way it currently works, but I think this qualifies as a bug (maybe
a UI bug, maybe a coding bug, maybe a doc bug).


        Stefan

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#175305 — Re: Manually installed packages

On Wed 30 Nov 2016 at 08:47:21 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > apt-mark showmanual   gives you the complement of   apt-mark showauto.
> > The second paragraph of apt-mark's description explains what's meant
> > by "auto". So "manual" doesn't mean what you appear to assume it does,
> > that you were involved in manually selecting it for installation. It
> > just means "not auto".
> 
> To me "auto" means "not manually",

Yes, auto and manual are anotnyms.

> so I'm just as confused as Rodolfo
> and I think for good reasons.

I don't know whether Rodolfo is still confused after the explanation
I gave. AFAICT once you realise that manual means "not marked as auto"
rather than "I installed this by typing apt* <packagename>", then it's
fairly obvious that "manual" is a bucket term that includes, for
example, packages installed by the debian-installer because they're
essential, with Priority: required.

I can't remember installing bash or grep, but they're certainly not
auto, so they're going to be "unmarked auto", or "marked non-auto",
or "marked manual". I think I'll stick to the last. What would
you prefer?

> There might be technical reasons behind
> the way it currently works, but I think this qualifies as a bug (maybe
> a UI bug, maybe a coding bug, maybe a doc bug).

*What* qualifies as a bug...that you're confused?

Cheers,
David.

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#175307 — Re: Manually installed packages

On 2016-12-01, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed 30 Nov 2016 at 08:47:21 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> > apt-mark showmanual   gives you the complement of   apt-mark showauto.
>> > The second paragraph of apt-mark's description explains what's meant
>> > by "auto". So "manual" doesn't mean what you appear to assume it does,
>> > that you were involved in manually selecting it for installation. It
>> > just means "not auto".
>> 
>> To me "auto" means "not manually",
>
> Yes, auto and manual are anotnyms.
>
>> so I'm just as confused as Rodolfo
>> and I think for good reasons.
>
> I don't know whether Rodolfo is still confused after the explanation
> I gave. AFAICT once you realise that manual means "not marked as auto"
> rather than "I installed this by typing apt* <packagename>", then it's
> fairly obvious that "manual" is a bucket term that includes, for
> example, packages installed by the debian-installer because they're
> essential, with Priority: required.

I think in the OP's case having asked for the whole Gnome kit and
caboodle upon installation he's got lots of stuff he might not even be
aware of necessarily that doesn't fall into the auto category (or the
high priority required category either), but that he didn't expressly
install. I guess I'm just repeating what you already said though. I
suppose the confusion derives from the fact that the word manual
connotes "requiring human effort," and certain manual packages appear
on our systems effortlessly. 

> I can't remember installing bash or grep, but they're certainly not
> auto, so they're going to be "unmarked auto", or "marked non-auto",
> or "marked manual". I think I'll stick to the last. What would
> you prefer?

>> There might be technical reasons behind
>> the way it currently works, but I think this qualifies as a bug (maybe
>> a UI bug, maybe a coding bug, maybe a doc bug).
>
> *What* qualifies as a bug...that you're confused?
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>


-- 
“It is enough that the arrows fit exactly in the wounds that they have made.”
Franz Kafka

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#175311 — Re: Manually installed packages

Curt <curty@free.fr> writes:

> I think in the OP's case having asked for the whole Gnome kit and
> caboodle upon installation he's got lots of stuff he might not even be
> aware of necessarily that doesn't fall into the auto category (or the
> high priority required category either), but that he didn't expressly
> install. I guess I'm just repeating what you already said though. I
> suppose the confusion derives from the fact that the word manual
> connotes "requiring human effort," and certain manual packages appear
> on our systems effortlessly. 


The present thread has collected many replies whose I thank all that kindly
contributed.  But I unfortunately see no real solution to the general problem I
put to myself of which the uninstallation of Gnome is only an example.

Suppose that, during months and years, you have installed many packages in your
Debian system that you no more want and no more use, and that you want to free
some space on disk because your machine is old with a small hard disk.  The
problem is what packages you can be really sure and safe to remove.

First, you need knowing what actually you have installed with your hands
because you don't remember them all.  This information is not provided by
apt-mark because its meaning of `manual' is not yours.  That information is
stored here and there, in pieces and chunks, within /var/log inside apt-get,
aptitude an dpkg log files that is not so simple to grep.  Besides, those files
seem to go back in the past not further 12 months or so.  So the best way is to
take note, in future, with pencil and paper, of what you installed during time;
and, for the present, erase the disk and reinstall everything.

Now, suppose you know - thanks to pencil and paper - what packages you've been
installed on your system since its creation.  And suppose that you decide to
remove, say, package1 bcause you don't need it any more.  You do: `aptitude
purge package1' or equivalent command but here comes another problem: only
package1 is removed but not all those packages that were installed at its time
along with package1.  Then you use for this purpose deborphans.  But this
morning I did a little experiment (see thread `deborphan') and it came out that
neither deborphan seems to actually remove those orphans packages.  The
solution seems so to be that pencil and paper should take note *also* of those
children or configuration files and not only of the main packages - in future.
In the present, erase and reinstall.

It seems to me not very enthusiastical all this.  To you?

Thanks,

Rodolfo

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#175312 — Re: Manually installed packages

On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:38:45PM +0000, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Suppose that, during months and years, you have installed many packages in your
> Debian system that you no more want and no more use, and that you want to free
> some space on disk because your machine is old with a small hard disk.  The
> problem is what packages you can be really sure and safe to remove.

At some point you actually have to *know* what a package does.  Go through
the list sorted by size and skip everything you know is useful.  When you
get to one that you think is not useful, or which you don't recognize
*at all*, dig into it and find out what it does.  Then consider removing
it, but be prepared to put it back if you break something.

This is how you learn.

P.S. http://wooledge.org/~greg/ds will sort the installed packages by
size for you.  As you can see, many of us have been there, done that.

P.P.S. do this learning on your desktop box, not a server.

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#175363 — Re: Manually installed packages

Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> writes:

> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:38:45PM +0000, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Suppose that, during months and years, you have installed many packages in
>> your Debian system that you no more want and no more use, and that you want
>> to free some space on disk because your machine is old with a small hard
>> disk.  The problem is what packages you can be really sure and safe to
>> remove.
>
> At some point you actually have to *know* what a package does.  Go through
> the list sorted by size and skip everything you know is useful.  When you
> get to one that you think is not useful, or which you don't recognize
> *at all*, dig into it and find out what it does.  Then consider removing
> it, but be prepared to put it back if you break something.
>
> This is how you learn.
>
> P.S. http://wooledge.org/~greg/ds will sort the installed packages by
> size for you.  As you can see, many of us have been there, done that.


Very useful.  Thanks.

Rodolfo

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#175368 — Re: Manually installed packages

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:
>
> P.S. http://wooledge.org/~greg/ds will sort the installed packages by
> size for you.  As you can see, many of us have been there, done that.
>

I would like to mention couple of things

1) You can do this by running dpigs in the debian-goodies package. For example

 % dpigs -H -n 5
 284.0M rstudio
 228.2M valgrind-dbg
 180.7M google-chrome-stable
 164.0M gcompris-data
 155.9M linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64

where -H lists the size in human readable format, -n specifies the
number of packages to be listed.

BTW there is nothing wrong with having your own script. I do it all
the time:). But I thought it might help users who are not aware of
this functionality in Debian itself.

2) The results from your script and dpigs are not consistent. The
dpigs utility shows valgrind-dbg but your script does not show it.

% perl ds | head -n 5
rstudio                                   290867
google-chrome-stable                      184994
gcompris-data                             167973
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64                159681
chromium                                  158398

 % dpigs -n 5
290867 rstudio
233675 valgrind-dbg
184994 google-chrome-stable
167973 gcompris-data
159681 linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64

3) Please consider putting these type of scripts in a public
repository hosting services such as gitlab or github? They make it
easier for others to collaborate by reducing the barrier to report
bugs, suggest features, provide patches etc.,

thanks
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

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#175392 — Re: Manually installed packages

Greg Wooledge wrote on 12/01/16 20:06:
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:38:45PM +0000, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
<snip>
> 
> P.S. http://wooledge.org/~greg/ds will sort the installed packages by
> size for you.  As you can see, many of us have been there, done that.
> 
<snip>

Yes, e.g., aptitude can do this sorting (and sorting by other criteria):

  aptitude -F '%p %D %d' --sort installsize search '~i'

Regards,
jvp.

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#175393 — Re: Manually installed packages

Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 12/04/16 10:40:
> Greg Wooledge wrote on 12/01/16 20:06:
>> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:38:45PM +0000, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> P.S. http://wooledge.org/~greg/ds will sort the installed packages by
>> size for you.  As you can see, many of us have been there, done that.
>>
> <snip>
> 
> Yes, e.g., aptitude can do this sorting (and sorting by other criteria):
> 
>   aptitude -F '%p %D %d' --sort installsize search '~i'
> 
Correction: to display the installed size this should be

  aptitude -F '%p %I %d' --sort installsize search '~i'

Regards,
jvp.

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#175397 — Re: Manually installed packages

Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> writes:

> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 12/04/16 10:40:
>> Greg Wooledge wrote on 12/01/16 20:06:
>>> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:38:45PM +0000, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> P.S. http://wooledge.org/~greg/ds will sort the installed packages by
>>> size for you.  As you can see, many of us have been there, done that.
>>>
>> <snip>
>> 
>> Yes, e.g., aptitude can do this sorting (and sorting by other criteria):
>> 
>>   aptitude -F '%p %D %d' --sort installsize search '~i'
>> 
> Correction: to display the installed size this should be
>
>   aptitude -F '%p %I %d' --sort installsize search '~i'


What about reverse (descending) installsize order?

Thanks,

Rodolfo

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#175398 — Re: Manually installed packages

Rodolfo Medina wrote on 12/04/16 12:54:
> Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> writes:
<snip>
>>   aptitude -F '%p %I %d' --sort installsize search '~i'
> 
> 
> What about reverse (descending) installsize order?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rodolfo
> 
For that purpose, the unix command "tac" comes handy

  aptitude -F '%p %I %d' --sort installsize search '~i' | tac

Regards,
jvp.

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#175314 — Re: Manually installed packages

Speaking of aptitude, it does remove automatically installed package if no other
package depends on it, or recommends it. This behavior can be changed by
configuration entries in /etc/apt/apt.conf, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*, etc.

To show any installed packages that aren't "auto" and which are dependencies or
recommendations of other packages, in short, packages that aren't marked "auto"
but could (should?) be, order

  aptitude search '~i!~M(~R~i|~Rrecommends:~i)'

Go through this list and, as root, mark the ones you don't need with

  aptitude markauto PACKAGE

When done,

  aptitude search '~g'

shows what can be purged from the system.

Regards,
jvp.

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