Re: Manually installed packages

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Manually installed packages
Date	2016-12-01 17:10 +0100
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On Wed 30 Nov 2016 at 08:47:21 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > apt-mark showmanual   gives you the complement of   apt-mark showauto.
> > The second paragraph of apt-mark's description explains what's meant
> > by "auto". So "manual" doesn't mean what you appear to assume it does,
> > that you were involved in manually selecting it for installation. It
> > just means "not auto".
> 
> To me "auto" means "not manually",

Yes, auto and manual are anotnyms.

> so I'm just as confused as Rodolfo
> and I think for good reasons.

I don't know whether Rodolfo is still confused after the explanation
I gave. AFAICT once you realise that manual means "not marked as auto"
rather than "I installed this by typing apt* <packagename>", then it's
fairly obvious that "manual" is a bucket term that includes, for
example, packages installed by the debian-installer because they're
essential, with Priority: required.

I can't remember installing bash or grep, but they're certainly not
auto, so they're going to be "unmarked auto", or "marked non-auto",
or "marked manual". I think I'll stick to the last. What would
you prefer?

> There might be technical reasons behind
> the way it currently works, but I think this qualifies as a bug (maybe
> a UI bug, maybe a coding bug, maybe a doc bug).

*What* qualifies as a bug...that you're confused?

Cheers,
David.

Thread

Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 22:50 +0100
  Re: Uninstalling Gnome Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-28 23:30 +0100
  Re: Uninstalling Gnome Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-28 23:40 +0100
    Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 10:20 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-29 14:10 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-29 14:10 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:40 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 17:00 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-29 17:10 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 17:20 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-11-29 18:10 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-29 18:50 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-29 20:00 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2016-11-30 05:20 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-29 19:00 +0100
  Re: Uninstalling Gnome Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 23:40 +0100
    Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 12:50 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-11-29 13:30 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-11-29 14:00 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:10 +0100
            Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:30 +0100
      Re: Uninstalling Gnome Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:10 +0100
        Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:30 +0100
          Re: Uninstalling Gnome Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 20:50 +0100
  Re: Uninstalling Gnome Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:40 +0100
  Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome) Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 00:50 +0100
    Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-11-30 01:30 +0100
      Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 05:30 +0100
      Re: Manually installed packages Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-11-30 14:50 +0100
        Re: Manually installed packages David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-12-01 17:10 +0100
          Re: Manually installed packages Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-12-01 18:10 +0100
            Re: Manually installed packages Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 19:40 +0100
              Re: Manually installed packages Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-12-01 20:10 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 14:40 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 19:00 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:50 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-04 11:00 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 13:00 +0100
                Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-04 13:10 +0100
              Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-12-01 20:50 +0100
              Re: Manually installed packages Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-01 22:00 +0100
          Re: Manually installed packages Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:20 +0100
        Re: Manually installed packages Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 18:30 +0100
    Re: Manually installed packages Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-11-30 09:50 +0100

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