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can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player?

Started byMichael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com>
First post2016-03-22 14:20 +0100
Last post2016-03-22 22:10 +0100
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  can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-22 14:20 +0100
    Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-03-22 14:40 +0100
    Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-03-22 15:00 +0100
    Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-03-22 17:30 +0100
      Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-22 18:20 +0100
        Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-03-22 21:00 +0100
          Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-22 21:20 +0100
            Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 21:50 +0100
            Re: can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player? Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 22:10 +0100

#165826 — can you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player?

FromMichael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com>
Date2016-03-22 14:20 +0100
Subjectcan you boot a dvd iso file from a tv dvd player?
Message-ID<rfuo2-4SV-7@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Dear Folks,

I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.

It's meant to be used for viewing movies etc recorded on blu ray discs etc.

Out of interest, would it possible to insert e.g. a debian minimal install
DVD into it, connect to my PC via e.g. a usb cable and use it to boot up
and install debian on it?

One of my optical drives seems to have malfunctioned and I wondered if it
could substitute for it at all.

I googled around a bit and it seemed as though the dvd player is set up for
video file formats not iso files etc.

But maybe it could still be made to work in some way......

Suggestions appreciated.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

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#165827

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2016-03-22 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<rfuHn-51N-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165826
Hi,

Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Out of interest, would it possible to insert e.g. a debian minimal install
> DVD into it, connect to my PC via e.g. a usb cable and use it to boot up and
> install debian on it?

It seems that the option to attach USB devices is rather for
the player acting as computer and the devices acting as add-on
storage.

But well, try out what happens if you give it a bootable DVD
or if you connect the player via USB to a PC.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#165828

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2016-03-22 15:00 +0100
Message-ID<rfv0J-5cK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165826
On 2016-03-22, Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> wrote:
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>
> Dear Folks,
>
> I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.
>
> It's meant to be used for viewing movies etc recorded on blu ray discs etc.
>
> Out of interest, would it possible to insert e.g. a debian minimal install
> DVD into it, connect to my PC via e.g. a usb cable and use it to boot up
> and install debian on it?
>
> One of my optical drives seems to have malfunctioned and I wondered if it
> could substitute for it at all.
>
> I googled around a bit and it seemed as though the dvd player is set up for
> video file formats not iso files etc.
>
> But maybe it could still be made to work in some way......
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael Fothergill

Buy a new drive for your PC.  Set-top boxes will simply refuse to read
that disc -- they're only programmed to recognize the video DVD / BR
formats.

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#165830

FromAndrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
Date2016-03-22 17:30 +0100
Message-ID<rfxlU-77U-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,

On 23/03/2016 12:18 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.

I think you will find that the USB port on a DVD player is only for
playing content and/or updating the firmware of the player itself.

There would be very little chance that it will act as a DVD drive for a
computer.

Cheers
A.

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#165832

FromMichael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com>
Date2016-03-22 18:20 +0100
Message-ID<rfy8i-7MX-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 22 March 2016 at 16:24, Andrew McGlashan <
andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 23/03/2016 12:18 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.
>
> I think you will find that the USB port on a DVD player is only for
> playing content and/or updating the firmware of the player itself.
>
> There would be very little chance that it will act as a DVD drive for a
> computer.
>
> Cheers
>
​OK, I will forget about that idea.....   I need to get better at warranty
registrations, reliability ratings, hardware problem diagnosis and
maintenance.

Thanks

Regds

MF
​


> A.
>

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#165836

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2016-03-22 21:00 +0100
Message-ID<rfAD8-QP-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165832
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 05:13:43PM +0000, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> On 22 March 2016 at 16:24, Andrew McGlashan <
> andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 23/03/2016 12:18 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > > I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.
> >
> > I think you will find that the USB port on a DVD player is only for
> > playing content and/or updating the firmware of the player itself.
> >
> > There would be very little chance that it will act as a DVD drive for a
> > computer.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> ​OK, I will forget about that idea.....   I need to get better at warranty
> registrations, reliability ratings, hardware problem diagnosis and
> maintenance.
> 

There's a reasonable chance that if you attack it with a
screwdriver, you will discover that there is a modern SATA
bluray/DVD drive in there, and you can rip it out and put
it in your computer.

-dsr-

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#165837

FromMichael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com>
Date2016-03-22 21:20 +0100
Message-ID<rfAWu-1e6-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 22 March 2016 at 19:59, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 05:13:43PM +0000, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > On 22 March 2016 at 16:24, Andrew McGlashan <
> > andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 23/03/2016 12:18 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > > > I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.
> > >
> > > I think you will find that the USB port on a DVD player is only for
> > > playing content and/or updating the firmware of the player itself.
> > >
> > > There would be very little chance that it will act as a DVD drive for a
> > > computer.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > ​OK, I will forget about that idea.....   I need to get better at
> warranty
> > registrations, reliability ratings, hardware problem diagnosis and
> > maintenance.
> >
>
> There's a reasonable chance that if you attack it with a
> screwdriver, you will discover that there is a modern SATA
> bluray/DVD drive in there, and you can rip it out and put
> it in your computer.
>
> -dsr-
>

​Would that drive be one that only read bluray and DVD disks or could it be
modified to burn them as well?

Regds

MF



​

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#165840

FromSeeker <seeker5528@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-22 21:50 +0100
Message-ID<rfBpw-1oq-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 3/22/2016 1:11 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
>
> On 22 March 2016 at 19:59, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org 
> <mailto:dsr@randomstring.org>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 05:13:43PM +0000, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>     > On 22 March 2016 at 16:24, Andrew McGlashan <
>     > andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au
>     <mailto:andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hi,
>     > >
>     > > On 23/03/2016 12:18 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>     > > > I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.
>     > >
>     There's a reasonable chance that if you attack it with a
>     screwdriver, you will discover that there is a modern SATA
>     bluray/DVD drive in there, and you can rip it out and put
>     it in your computer.
>
>     -dsr-
>
>
> ​Would that drive be one that only read bluray and DVD disks or could 
> it be modified to burn them as well?
>

If the player did not have functions built in for recording the drive is 
probably just a reader, no
write capability.

It my reach a point where it makes more economic sense for the 
manufacturers to only create
RW drives than it does for them to have 2 production lines, but don't 
know if we are there yet,
much less if we were there when your player was manufactured.

Also I expect it's more likely that the player would have a laptop style 
drive in it which would
require an adapter to handle the different size of SATA data/power 
connectors if you are looking
to use it in a desktop system.

If the system you are looking to use it in is a laptop, then newer 
laptops that still include an
optical drive have gone to thinner drives. Outside of that it's a 
question of how things line up.
The piece that secures the drive to the laptop could probably be swapped 
with the piece off
of the old drive if necessary or left off if the drive fits tight enough 
if really necessary. The face
plate is less likely the match up between the two drives, especially 
between a DVD drive and a
Blue Ray drive.

Later, Seeker


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#165842

FromSeeker <seeker5528@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-22 22:10 +0100
Message-ID<rfBIS-1Lk-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165837

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On 3/22/2016 1:11 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
>
> On 22 March 2016 at 19:59, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org 
> <mailto:dsr@randomstring.org>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 05:13:43PM +0000, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>     > On 22 March 2016 at 16:24, Andrew McGlashan <
>     > andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au
>     <mailto:andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hi,
>     > >
>     > > On 23/03/2016 12:18 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>     > > > I own a Samsung BD-C5900 Blu ray/DVD player.
>     > >
>     There's a reasonable chance that if you attack it with a
>     screwdriver, you will discover that there is a modern SATA
>     bluray/DVD drive in there, and you can rip it out and put
>     it in your computer.
>
>     -dsr-
>
>
> ​Would that drive be one that only read bluray and DVD disks or could 
> it be modified to burn them as well?
>

If the player did not have functions built in for recording the drive is 
probably just a reader, no
write capability.

It my reach a point where it makes more economic sense for the 
manufacturers to only create
RW drives than it does for them to have 2 production lines, but don't 
know if we are there yet,
much less if we were there when your player was manufactured.

Also I expect it's more likely that the player would have a laptop style 
drive in it which would
require an adapter to handle the different size of SATA data/power 
connectors if you are looking
to use it in a desktop system.

If the system you are looking to use it in is a laptop, then newer 
laptops that still include an
optical drive have gone to thinner drives. Outside of that it's a 
question of how things line up.
The piece that secures the drive to the laptop could probably be swapped 
with the piece off
of the old drive if necessary or left off if the drive fits tight enough 
if really necessary. The face
plate is less likely the match up between the two drives, especially 
between a DVD drive and a
Blue Ray drive.

Later, Seeker


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