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  sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Fernando Arenas <arenas.f@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 12:40 +0100
    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Jerome BENOIT <sphericaltriangle@rezozer.net> - 2015-12-31 13:20 +0100
    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-31 13:30 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2015-12-31 14:20 +0100
    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-12-31 13:40 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 15:30 +0100
    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-12-31 14:20 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il> - 2015-12-31 14:30 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 02:30 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 03:50 +0100
    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Javier Barroso <javibarroso@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 17:20 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-12-31 17:40 +0100
        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png "John L. Ries" <jries@salford-systems.com> - 2015-12-31 20:30 +0100
          RE: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Arno Schuring <aelschuring@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-06 19:40 +0100
    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2015-12-31 21:20 +0100
      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2015-12-31 21:40 +0100
        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 10:50 +0100
          Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 17:30 +0100
            Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png peter@berghold.net - 2016-01-01 17:40 +0100
              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-01 17:50 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 19:40 +0100
              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 18:00 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-01 22:30 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-01 23:10 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Charlie <ariestao@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-01-02 00:10 +0100
                    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 04:30 +0100
              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 18:50 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2016-01-01 19:10 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Lee Winter <lee.j.i.winter@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 20:10 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-01-02 09:00 +0100
                    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-01-02 09:20 +0100
                      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2016-01-02 18:10 +0100
                        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-02 18:20 +0100
                          Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-01-02 19:00 +0100
                    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2016-01-03 11:40 +0100
              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-01-01 18:50 +0100
            Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 02:30 +0100
              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 14:00 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 01:30 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 09:40 +0100
                    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-01-06 10:20 +0100
                      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 16:40 +0100
                    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-01-06 10:50 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 11:30 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-01-06 13:00 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2016-01-06 13:10 +0100
                    Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-01-06 13:30 +0100
                      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-06 14:40 +0100
                        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 16:50 +0100
                          Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 17:50 +0100
                            Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-06 21:20 +0100
                      Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 16:00 +0100
                        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2016-01-06 16:10 +0100
                        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-01-06 16:30 +0100
                        Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-01-06 17:40 +0100
                          Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-01-06 18:20 +0100
                          Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 20:00 +0100
                            Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2016-01-07 14:50 +0100
                              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-07 15:10 +0100
                                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2016-01-07 15:30 +0100
              Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-01-05 18:00 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 01:30 +0100
                Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png Matt Ventura <mattventura@mattventura.net> - 2016-01-07 00:50 +0100
                  Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 07:20 +0100

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#162344 — sexist content in the package openclipart2-png

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First my sincere congratulations to the entire team that works every day to
improve this wonderful operating system.
The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called
openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
as sex objects. So I ask you to withdraw these images and improve its
protocols for such content is not put back into their servers.
I hate that my children may find these images when they perform their work
for the school.
Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women. Do not you
contribute to promoting ideas about women favoring these behaviors.

greetings from
Fernando Arenas

https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist

**************************************************************************

En primer lugar mi mas sincera felicitación al todo el equipo que cada día
trabaja para mejorar este magnifico sistema operativo.
El motivo de dirigirme a ustedes es por haber encontrado en el paquete
openclipart2 unos clipsarts de contenido claramente machista en los que se
presenta a la mujer como objeto sexual. Por lo que quiero pedirles que
retiren estas imágenes y que mejoren sus protocolos para que contenidos de
este tipo no se vuelvan a incluir en sus servidores.
No es agradable comprobar que mis hijos pueden encontrar estas imágenes
cuando realizan su trabajo para el colegio.
Solo en España durante 2015 la violencia machista ha asesinado a 62
mujeres. No contribuyan ustedes a fomentar ideas sobre la mujer que
favorecen estos comportamientos.

Saludos
Fernando Arenas

https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist

**********************************************************************
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#162345

Hello Fernando:

I am not sure that the debian-user forum is the best place for your message:
what I mean is that you may want to target better. The debian-user forum is meant
for end users who are not responsible for the content of the packages.

First, you may want to make a bugreport for the package asking to drop off these images
or to at least put them in a separate package with an explicit name (or something).
Second, you may address the issue to the debian-policy forum.

hth,
Jerome


On 31/12/15 12:15, Fernando Arenas wrote:
> First my sincere congratulations to the entire team that works every day to improve this wonderful operating system.
> The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented as sex objects. So I ask you to withdraw these images and improve its protocols for such content is not put back into their servers.
> I hate that my children may find these images when they perform their work for the school.
> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women. Do not you contribute to promoting ideas about women favoring these behaviors.
> 
> greetings from
> Fernando Arenas
> 
> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
> 
> **************************************************************************
> 
> En primer lugar mi mas sincera felicitación al todo el equipo que cada día trabaja para mejorar este magnifico sistema operativo.
> El motivo de dirigirme a ustedes es por haber encontrado en el paquete openclipart2 unos clipsarts de contenido claramente machista en los que se presenta a la mujer como objeto sexual. Por lo que quiero pedirles que retiren estas imágenes y que mejoren sus protocolos para que contenidos de este tipo no se vuelvan a incluir en sus servidores.
> No es agradable comprobar que mis hijos pueden encontrar estas imágenes cuando realizan su trabajo para el colegio.
> Solo en España durante 2015 la violencia machista ha asesinado a 62 mujeres. No contribuyan ustedes a fomentar ideas sobre la mujer que favorecen estos comportamientos.
> 
> Saludos
> Fernando Arenas
> 
> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
> 
> **********************************************************************
> **********************************************************************
> 
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> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Woman_10.png
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> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Woman_12.png
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> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Woman_2.png
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> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Woman_8.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Woman_9.png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/grimgiant/grimgiant_nude_woman.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/grimgiant/grimgiant_nude_woman_on_bed.png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/juanmontoya/juanmontoya_lingerie_(see_png).png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/kaeso/kaeso_Girls_rule_.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/kaeso/kaeso_Toilet_sign.png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/dodom01/dodom01_women_from_above.png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gopher/gopher_Pink_anime_girl_(beta_).png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/molumen/molumen_Naked_girl.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/molumen/molumen_Naked_girl_1.png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/momoko/momoko_Silhouette_of_Stripper_on_a_Pole.png
> 
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_01.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_02.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_03.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_04.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_05.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_06.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_07.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_08.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_09.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_1.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_10.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_11.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_12.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_13.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_14.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_15.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_16.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_17.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_18.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_19.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_2.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_20.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_21.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_22.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_23.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_24.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_25.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_26.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_27.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_28.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_29.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_3.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_30.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_31.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_32.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_33.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_34.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_35.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_36.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_37.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_38.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_39.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_4.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_40.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_41.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_42.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_43.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_44.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_45.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_46.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_47.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_48.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_49.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_5.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_50.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_51.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_52.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_53.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_54.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_6.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_64.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_7.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_8.png
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/nicubunu/nicubunu_Woman_Silhouette_9.png
> 
> /usr/share/openclipart2/png/Romanov/Romanov_Lady_stripper.png
> 
> 

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#162346

Fernando Arenas wrote:

> openclipart2

so which one is bugging you?

You have to file bug report - or request for change against openclipart2
maintainer.

Also I'm not sure what you've seen - I did not find anything disturbing - at
least nothing that the kids won't see on their way to school, or having a
computer in their hands - your request makes me smile.

Are you trolling on political correctness?

regards

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#162350

On 31/12/15 12:21, deloptes wrote:
> Fernando Arenas wrote:
>
>> openclipart2
>
> so which one is bugging you?

There's a list at the end of the OP.

I don't agree that any of the images on that list need to be removed 
from Debian for the reasons stated by the OP (I can't comment on whether 
they constitute policy violations for other reasons such as non-free 
licences or unclear copyright status), but for most of the images on 
that list I can certainly imagine a reasonable person concluding that 
their inclusion in Debian is problematic, and I wouldn't encourage most 
of them to be added to Debian if they weren't already there.

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#162347

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:15:01 +0100
Fernando Arenas <arenas.f@gmail.com> wrote:

> The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called
> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
> as sex objects. 

Thank you for the pointer, I'll install the package immediately, and enjoy a look at those pictures...
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
           Paranoids are people, too; they have their own problems.
             It's easy to criticize, but if everybody hated you,
                            you'd be paranoid too.
                                                      -- D.J. Hicks
                                    
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#162353

On 12/31/2015 07:31 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

> Thank you for the pointer, I'll install the package immediately, and
> enjoy a look at those pictures...
I'm on it too.
:0 Ric



-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#162349

Hi,

Fernando Arenas wrote:
> have found in a package called
> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
> as sex objects.

I had a look at
  https://sources.debian.net/src/openclipart2/2.0%2Bdfsg-1/clipart/

Some of the images in your list are moderate male fantasy stereotypes
but many of your complaints are about images which i'd expect in
fashion magazines for women.


> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women.

The violent male is indeed a problem everywhere in the world.
Protecting those who are peaceful is an obligation to everybody.

Nevertheless i cannot make a connection between the images
and violence or sexual offenses.


As for flesh:
Don't download whimsy clipart. Google for the real stuff.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Goya#Mid_period_.281793-1799.29
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Alma-Tadema#Move_to_England
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Boucher#Gallery
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandro_Botticelli
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Schiele#Figurative_works


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#162351

My two cents (not worth very much nowadays, I am afraid):

I have not looked at the collections but like others, there simply have to be 
some girlie stuff, scantily clad beauties, ripped men, etc. I suppose these 
have place in clipart collections, someone might make use of them and not 
necessarily in harmful ways.

I would like to see all the sexist and sexy stuff de-emphasized.

I am more concerned about the ad-pictures that will adorn our technical sites 
(and I have complained about some of it). I am also concerned about the 
prevalence of foul language in a professional forum.

I think we can do better.

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#162627

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Fernando Arenas wrote:
>> have found in a package called
>> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
>> as sex objects.
>
> I had a look at
>   https://sources.debian.net/src/openclipart2/2.0%2Bdfsg-1/clipart/
>
> Some of the images in your list are moderate male fantasy stereotypes
> but many of your complaints are about images which i'd expect in
> fashion magazines for women.
>
>
>> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women.
>
> The violent male is indeed a problem everywhere in the world.
> Protecting those who are peaceful is an obligation to everybody.
>
> Nevertheless i cannot make a connection between the images
> and violence or sexual offenses.
>
>
> As for flesh:
> Don't download whimsy clipart. Google for the real stuff.
>
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Goya#Mid_period_.281793-1799.29
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Alma-Tadema#Move_to_England
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Boucher#Gallery
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandro_Botticelli
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Schiele#Figurative_works
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>



-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well:
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html

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#162629

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Fernando Arenas wrote:
>> have found in a package called
>> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
>> as sex objects.
>
> I had a look at
>   https://sources.debian.net/src/openclipart2/2.0%2Bdfsg-1/clipart/

I'm wondering whether you based your opinions on the low-resolution
thumbnails in the png directory there, or whether were able to display
the vector files in the svg directory.

> [...]

Responding to the rest of your comments and keeping it sort-of
on-topic to the lists will take some time I don't have, and some
off-topic thinking that would belong more in my blog, so I'll refrain
for now.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well:
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html

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#162373

Hello,

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Fernando Arenas <arenas.f@gmail.com> wrote:
> First my sincere congratulations to the entire team that works every day to
> improve this wonderful operating system.
> The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called
> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
> as sex objects. So I ask you to withdraw these images and improve its
> protocols for such content is not put back into their servers.
> I hate that my children may find these images when they perform their work
> for the school.
> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women. Do not you
> contribute to promoting ideas about women favoring these behaviors.
>
> greetings from
> Fernando Arenas
>
> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist

As workaround, you can create a dpkg config file on
/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ (maybe called openclipart2-exclusions)  with:

path-exclude /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Wom*
path-exclude /usr/share/openclipart2/png/....

Then do apt-get --reinstall install openclipart2  , and files listed
there should not be installed

Regards

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#162379

Javier Barroso writes:
> As workaround, you can create a dpkg config file on
> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ (maybe called openclipart2-exclusions)  with:

> path-exclude /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Wom*
> path-exclude /usr/share/openclipart2/png/....

> Then do apt-get --reinstall install openclipart2 , and files listed
> there should not be installed

But that does not achieve the OP's goal, which is to prevent anyone from
installing those files.

Perhaps the OP should create openclipart2forprudes and try to get it
packaged.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#162407

I was going to respond to the original post privately, as my thoughts are 
off topic, but at this point, I think I need to do it publicly.

While pornography and its attendant portrayal of women, children, and even 
men as sex objects encourage all manner of perverse behaviors, I don't 
that think non-sexual abuse of women by men is one of them (it's not like 
readers of "Playgirl" are thought to be more inclined to commit violence 
against men than others).  Rather, the latter appears to be more related 
to cultural attitudes that glorify bullying and physical punishment of 
perceived slights as "manly", and despise appeals to reason and compassion 
as weak and effeminate; combined with a general contempt for women 
(beautiful or not) as weaklings and inferiors.  Thus, while removing 
sexually provacative pictures from collections of clip art *might* 
discourage perverse sexual behavior to a very modest extent, it is 
unlikely to reduce the number of wife-beaters.  Treating the latter and 
other bullies as the common criminals they are, and ceasing to make 
excuses for them (together with teaching boys from a young age to respect 
girls and women and protect them from violence) would do a lot more.

--------------------------|
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--------------------------|


On Thu, 31 Dec 2015, John Hasler wrote:

> Javier Barroso writes:
>> As workaround, you can create a dpkg config file on
>> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ (maybe called openclipart2-exclusions)  with:
>
>> path-exclude /usr/share/openclipart2/png/gustavorezende/gustavorezende_Wom*
>> path-exclude /usr/share/openclipart2/png/....
>
>> Then do apt-get --reinstall install openclipart2 , and files listed
>> there should not be installed
>
> But that does not achieve the OP's goal, which is to prevent anyone from
> installing those files.
>
> Perhaps the OP should create openclipart2forprudes and try to get it
> packaged.
> -- 
> John Hasler
> jhasler@newsguy.com
> Elmwood, WI USA
>
>

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#162718

(yes, I know, old post, and offtopic. Still, pet peeve...)


> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:25:55 -0800
> From: jries@salford-systems.com
>
> [..] combined with a general contempt for women
> (beautiful or not) as weaklings and inferiors. Thus, while removing
> sexually provacative pictures from collections of clip art *might*
> discourage perverse sexual behavior to a very modest extent, it is
> unlikely to reduce the number of wife-beaters. Treating the latter and
> other bullies as the common criminals they are, and ceasing to make
> excuses for them (together with teaching boys from a young age to respect
> girls and women and protect them from violence) would do a lot more.

I don't think you can have it both ways. There is no way to combine the
perception of "women as weaklings and inferiors" with "teaching boys from
a young age to [protect] girls and women". If you do the latter, you
reinforce the former. Yes, teach boys to respect others. Teach girls the
same. But stop perpetuating the misguided idea that one gender is
reponsible (as either provider or protector) for the other.


Regards,
Arno

 		 	   		  

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#162408

On 31/12/15 06:15 AM, Fernando Arenas wrote:
> First my sincere congratulations to the entire team that works every 
> day to improve this wonderful operating system.
> The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called 
> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are 
> presented as sex objects. So I ask you to withdraw these images and 
> improve its protocols for such content is not put back into their servers.
> I hate that my children may find these images when they perform their 
> work for the school.
> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women. Do not 
> you contribute to promoting ideas about women favoring these behaviors.
>
> greetings from
> Fernando Arenas
>
> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist

I will note that the package is not available for Jessie or Stretch 
except as a download from Sid.I gather the package maintainer has a 
problem with it too. Perhaps the openclipart packages should be divided 
into categories which would allow for more targeted downloads. People 
looking for animal clipart, for example, may not want furniture clipart 
installed as well. This would allow for "sexy-female" and "sexy-male" 
packages that aren't installed except by explicit request.

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#162409

On 31/12/15 03:10 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 31/12/15 06:15 AM, Fernando Arenas wrote:
>> First my sincere congratulations to the entire team that works every 
>> day to improve this wonderful operating system.
>> The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called 
>> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are 
>> presented as sex objects. So I ask you to withdraw these images and 
>> improve its protocols for such content is not put back into their 
>> servers.
>> I hate that my children may find these images when they perform their 
>> work for the school.
>> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women. Do 
>> not you contribute to promoting ideas about women favoring these 
>> behaviors.
>>
>> greetings from
>> Fernando Arenas
>>
>> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
>
> I will note that the package is not available for Jessie or Stretch 
> except as a download from Sid.I gather the package maintainer has a 
> problem with it too. Perhaps the openclipart packages should be 
> divided into categories which would allow for more targeted downloads. 
> People looking for animal clipart, for example, may not want furniture 
> clipart installed as well. This would allow for "sexy-female" and 
> "sexy-male" packages that aren't installed except by explicit request.
>
My apologies for the above comment. Up until reading Fernando's post, I 
wasn't aware of openclipart2. I note that it is substantially larger 
than openclipart and is organized by contributor, not by topic. 
Following my suggestion would be hugely time consuming and achieve very 
little.

Looking at the images that were identified, I find little justification 
in the original complaint. One can easily accidentally stumble across 
far more provocative content on Facebook.

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#162418

Just for the record, in case the package maintainer or policy group
look at this thread hoping for representative opinions:

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> wrote:
> On 31/12/15 03:10 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>>
>> On 31/12/15 06:15 AM, Fernando Arenas wrote:
>>>
>>> First my sincere congratulations to the entire team that works every day
>>> to improve this wonderful operating system.
>>> The reason for writing to you is to have found in a package called
>>> openclipart2 clipsarts clearly sexist content in which women are presented
>>> as sex objects. So I ask you to withdraw these images and improve its
>>> protocols for such content is not put back into their servers.
>>> I hate that my children may find these images when they perform their
>>> work for the school.
>>> Only in Spain during 2015 male violence he has killed 62 women. Do not
>>> you contribute to promoting ideas about women favoring these behaviors.
>>>
>>> greetings from
>>> Fernando Arenas
>>>
>>> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
>>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/openclipart2-png/filelist
>>
>>
>> I will note that the package is not available for Jessie or Stretch except
>> as a download from Sid.I gather the package maintainer has a problem with it
>> too. Perhaps the openclipart packages should be divided into categories
>> which would allow for more targeted downloads. People looking for animal
>> clipart, for example, may not want furniture clipart installed as well. This
>> would allow for "sexy-female" and "sexy-male" packages that aren't installed
>> except by explicit request.
>>
> My apologies for the above comment. Up until reading Fernando's post, I
> wasn't aware of openclipart2.

I personally see no reason for you to apologize for your suggestion.

It would take a bit of work, but non-programmers who want to help
could do a few at a time and it would help make openclipart2 more
useful for everyone.

One volunteer by him/herself would get worn out, yes, and I wouldn't
ask the package maintainer to categorize the whole list without help.

> I note that it is substantially larger than
> openclipart and is organized by contributor, not by topic.

And that makes it less useful than it would b if organized by topic.

It would have been nice if we had the contributors' opinions about the
categorization as a starting point, too, if I were making wishes.

> Following my
> suggestion would be hugely time consuming and achieve very little.

Strongly disagree. Clipart is only useful when you can find what you
are looking for.

> Looking at the images that were identified, I find little justification in
> the original complaint. One can easily accidentally stumble across far more
> provocative content on Facebook.
>

The comment on facebook aside, I looked at the first twenty or so
images in the list, and I agree that the general point of view is very
much one that treats people as objects. I would not want my children
finding those when looking for clipart.

In my opinion, a complaint is justified here. Those should be sorted
out into a separate package, at minimum.

-- 
Joel Rees

Ranting is free.
http://free-is-not-free.blogspot.jp/

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#162434

On 01/01/2016 04:47 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
  I looked at the first twenty or so
> images in the list, and I agree that the general point of view is very
> much one that treats people as objects. I would not want my children
> finding those when looking for clipart.
>
> In my opinion, a complaint is justified here. Those should be sorted
> out into a separate package, at minimum.

I looked at the first 100 and found nothing meriting censorship. Ric


-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#162435

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I'm confused what specifically is meriting censorship?

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From: Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 11:21
Subject: Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png

On 01/01/2016 04:47 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
  I looked at the first twenty or so
> images in the list, and I agree that the general point of view is very
> much one that treats people as objects. I would not want my children
> finding those when looking for clipart.
>
> In my opinion, a complaint is justified here. Those should be sorted
> out into a separate package, at minimum.

I looked at the first 100 and found nothing meriting censorship. Ric


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peter write:
> I'm confused what specifically is meriting censorship?

Political incorrectness.
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