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| Started by | Tim Tepatti <ttepatti@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-26 18:50 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-08-29 00:10 +0200 |
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Adapter Names on Stretch Tim Tepatti <ttepatti@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 18:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2015-08-26 19:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-26 19:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2015-08-26 20:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch "Gian Uberto Lauri" <saint@eng.it> - 2015-08-27 09:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2015-08-27 10:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-26 20:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-08-26 21:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-26 22:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2015-08-27 00:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-27 01:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-08-26 21:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2015-08-26 21:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2015-08-26 22:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-26 23:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-26 23:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-08-27 00:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 01:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-27 02:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 03:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-27 03:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 04:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-27 12:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-08-28 15:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-28 15:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 16:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-27 20:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-28 17:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 17:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 00:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2015-08-29 08:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Matt Ventura <mattventura@mattventura.net> - 2015-08-29 09:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2015-08-29 11:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-29 17:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 18:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 18:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 19:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 19:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 03:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 03:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 03:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 04:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 04:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 04:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 04:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-29 12:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 15:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 23:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-30 03:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-30 06:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-30 07:30 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-30 21:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-31 03:50 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] Charles Kroeger <ckrogrr@frankensteinface.com> - 2015-09-07 09:00 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 21:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 06:10 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-28 21:20 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 23:40 +0200
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 00:10 +0200
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| From | Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 03:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q1UaS-6ee-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156853 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 21:14:00 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> Electricity is not magic, it has rules & regulations intended to tame it.
> Here, it works nice.
I live in a country where the only rule applying to electricity is:
"Pay the bill every month."
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The single biggest problem in communication
is the illusion that it has taken place.
-- George Bernard Shaw
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 04:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q1UXf-7A4-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156854 |
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 21:22:04 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 21:14:00 -0400 > > Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote: > > Electricity is not magic, it has rules & regulations intended to > > tame it. Here, it works nice. > > I live in a country where the only rule applying to electricity is: > "Pay the bill every month." Does Paraguay not have the equivalent of our National Electrical Code, commonly called the NEC? Here in the US, its considered the Bible on how to do electricity safely and legally in those government areas that require it. Perhaps a bit of background on me. Born in 1934, I have an 8th grade "official" education as I quit school in '49 to go fix televisions for a living. I have what was once a 1st phone license, and I am a Certified Electronics Technician & spent about 65% of my working life as a broadcast engineer, where because of the tall towers and their habit of being targets for lightning strikes, I got to understand the physics of it quite well. The point being is that neither I nor my gear cares if a quarter million volt surge comes on the line, if the surge absorbers are working, then the line voltage seen by the equipment will never go above about 175 volts from line to line. The gear can tolerate that for a few millionths of a second. And additional layer of protection is a wireless mouse and keyboard. The air gap may not be over 2", but even that is sufficient it seems to keep me from getting tapped. > Cheers, > > Ron. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 12:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q228r-RU-39@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156857 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 22:09:52 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> Does Paraguay not have the equivalent of our National Electrical Code,
> commonly called the NEC?
>
> Here in the US, its considered the Bible on how to do electricity safely
> and legally in those government areas that require it.
No; no such thing is known here, nor planning/zoning regulations, vehicle
technical inspection, or until very recently driving test or income tax..
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A man will give up almost anything except his suffering.
-- John Cleese
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2r6O-3lC-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156853 |
On Thursday 27 August 2015 02:14:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > But I have had exactly zero > equipment failures in the ensuing decade & change that I could attribute > to that. I have had no equipment failures _ever_ (<cross fingers, spit and throw salt over my left shoulder>) from lightning or thunderstorms. Nor equipment damage from a hurricane. I have no special precautions. I also have no snake-trap anywhere, and have not been attacked by a snake. Though I did find a slow-worm on my kitchen floor. Gene, you of all people should know that the above is an illogical statement. ;-) Renaud may just have been unlucky and you may just have been lucky. Getting a new nic seems to me to be a lot less trouble than you went to!! Lisi
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 15:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2rzR-49f-33@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156958 |
Lisi writes: > I have had no equipment failures _ever_ (<cross fingers, spit and > throw salt over my left shoulder>) from lightning or thunderstorms. > Nor equipment damage from a hurricane. I have no special precautions. For many years I had frequent lightning-induced equipment failures despite having taken all the above measures and then some. I had an underground telephone line and overhead power. Then NSP made some distribution system changes that resulted in me getting underground service. End of problems. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 15:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2scA-4SC-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156958 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:37:41 +0100
Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > But I have had exactly zero
> > equipment failures in the ensuing decade & change that I could attribute
> > to that.
> I have had no equipment failures _ever_ (<cross fingers, spit and throw salt
> over my left shoulder>) from lightning or thunderstorms. Nor equipment
> damage from a hurricane. I have no special precautions.
> I also have no snake-trap anywhere, and have not been attacked by a snake.
> Though I did find a slow-worm on my kitchen floor.
> Gene, you of all people should know that the above is an illogical
> statement. ;-)
> Renaud may just have been unlucky and you may just have been lucky. Getting a
> new nic seems to me to be a lot less trouble than you went to!!
Also, balancing the costs and hassle of completely rewiring a house to Gene's
standards, against those of buying a couple NICs every five or ten years...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Les cons ça ose tout.
C'est même à çà qu'on les reconnaît.
-- Michel Audiard
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2svV-5uI-29@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156958 |
On Friday 28 August 2015 08:37:41 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 27 August 2015 02:14:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > > But I have had exactly zero > > equipment failures in the ensuing decade & change that I could > > attribute to that. > > I have had no equipment failures _ever_ (<cross fingers, spit and > throw salt over my left shoulder>) from lightning or thunderstorms. > Nor equipment damage from a hurricane. I have no special precautions. > > I also have no snake-trap anywhere, and have not been attacked by a > snake. Though I did find a slow-worm on my kitchen floor. > > Gene, you of all people should know that the above is an illogical > statement. ;-) > > Renaud may just have been unlucky and you may just have been lucky. > Getting a new nic seems to me to be a lot less trouble than you went > to!! > > Lisi And protecting that new nic, since I know how to do it, sure seems to have been worthwhile. Wannabe J.O.A.T's are generally that way. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 20:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q29MD-3F0-61@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156842 |
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit : > > An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC > > because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its stead, your > > network config will be buggered as the system will givethe new NICt > > a name different from the one assigned to the old one, since it will have > > a different MAC address.., > > Indeed, after two hours fiddling with firmwares hoping this is a software > problem, then cables and hubs to find where the problem exactly is, then one > hour and a half riding the subway to the other side of town where the shops > that have discrete network cards nowadays are, and finally after you ruined > six months uptime to shutdown and install the newly-bought card, editing a > small config file is really the straw that broke the camel's back. Honestly, I don't think it's that bad. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 14:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2rgv-3xc-25@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156906 |
On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit : > > > An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC > > > because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its stead, your > > > network config will be buggered as the system will givethe new NICt > > > a name different from the one assigned to the old one, since it will > > > have a different MAC address.., > > > > Indeed, after two hours fiddling with firmwares hoping this is a software > > problem, then cables and hubs to find where the problem exactly is, then > > one hour and a half riding the subway to the other side of town where the > > shops that have discrete network cards nowadays are, and finally after > > you ruined six months uptime to shutdown and install the newly-bought > > card, editing a small config file is really the straw that broke the > > camel's back. > > Honestly, I don't think it's that bad. Chris, what happened to your sense of humour? ;-) This isn't like you! Lisi
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| From | Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2sYW-62C-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156959 |
On 08/28/2015 08:39 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: >>> Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit : >>>> An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC >>>> because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its stead, your >>>> network config will be buggered as the system will givethe new NICt >>>> a name different from the one assigned to the old one, since it will >>>> have a different MAC address.., >>> >>> Indeed, after two hours fiddling with firmwares hoping this is a software >>> problem, then cables and hubs to find where the problem exactly is, then >>> one hour and a half riding the subway to the other side of town where the >>> shops that have discrete network cards nowadays are, and finally after >>> you ruined six months uptime to shutdown and install the newly-bought >>> card, editing a small config file is really the straw that broke the >>> camel's back. >> >> Honestly, I don't think it's that bad. > > Chris, what happened to your sense of humour? ;-) This isn't like you! From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 17:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2tLl-7dc-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156970 |
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com): > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using > eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up the new card. If it bugs you, it's never too late. Just edit the name in that file (you probably want to remove the stale entry too) and reboot. (Removing all eth* entries and rebooting will achieve the same end.) Of course, you'll have to change eth1 back to eth0 elsewhere. Cheers, David.
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| From | Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 17:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2u4H-7zO-31@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156979 |
On 08/28/2015 11:22 AM, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com): > >> From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will >> automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using >> eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) > > That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up > the new card. > > If it bugs you, it's never too late. Just edit the name in that file > (you probably want to remove the stale entry too) and reboot. > (Removing all eth* entries and rebooting will achieve the same end.) > Of course, you'll have to change eth1 back to eth0 elsewhere. I tried that, it must be listed "elsewhere". Too much trouble, "Going with the flow" as everything works otherwise. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
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| From | Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2A0q-7MI-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156979 |
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com): > > > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will > > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using > > eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) > > That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up > the new card. I think you can delete the file and it will get regenerated on boot. Well, it used to be that way, probably best to save a copy first in case it doesn't work that way any more. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
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| From | Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 08:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2HXX-2g1-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157004 |
On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 10:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com): > > > > > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will > > > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using > > > eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) > > > > That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in > > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up > > the new card. > > I think you can delete the file and it will get regenerated on boot. > Well, it used to be that way, probably best to save a copy first in case > it doesn't work that way any more. It does on Jessie. Just been bringing up several boards using the same filesystem image and needed to do this myself. Which reminds me, I should add a command to rc.local to delete all udev rules at boot. (Idea is that I can swap out boards if they fail and keep the same disk image - which is on SD card). -- Tixy
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| From | Matt Ventura <mattventura@mattventura.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 09:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2IKl-3pw-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157023 |
On 8/28/2015 11:32 PM, Tixy wrote: > On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 10:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: >>> Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com): >>> >>>> From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will >>>> automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using >>>> eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) >>> That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in >>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up >>> the new card. >> I think you can delete the file and it will get regenerated on boot. >> Well, it used to be that way, probably best to save a copy first in case >> it doesn't work that way any more. > It does on Jessie. Just been bringing up several boards using the same > filesystem image and needed to do this myself. Which reminds me, I > should add a command to rc.local to delete all udev rules at boot. (Idea > is that I can swap out boards if they fail and keep the same disk image > - which is on SD card). > You can also just delete the udev rule that generates the persistent interface names to begin with. Matt Ventura
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| From | Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 11:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2Kj8-5Iz-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157027 |
On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 00:24 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote:
> On 8/28/2015 11:32 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 10:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >>> Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com):
> >>>
> >>>> From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
> >>>> automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using
> >>>> eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :)
> >>> That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in
> >>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up
> >>> the new card.
> >> I think you can delete the file and it will get regenerated on boot.
> >> Well, it used to be that way, probably best to save a copy first in case
> >> it doesn't work that way any more.
> > It does on Jessie. Just been bringing up several boards using the same
> > filesystem image and needed to do this myself. Which reminds me, I
> > should add a command to rc.local to delete all udev rules at boot. (Idea
> > is that I can swap out boards if they fail and keep the same disk image
> > - which is on SD card).
> >
> You can also just delete the udev rule that generates the persistent
> interface names to begin with.
My first thought was that the rule would re-appear if udev package gets
updated. But anyway, I grepped /usr for 70-persistent-net.rules and got
a hit in /usr/share/doc/libudev1/README.Debian which says:
To disable persistent naming of network interfaces, create an
empty
/etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules file to
override
the one in /lib/udev/rules.d/ and delete
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
So,
touch /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules
job done :-)
Thanks for the clue.
--
Tixy
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 17:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2Qye-68z-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157004 |
Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannister@slingshot.co.nz): > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4now@gmail.com): > > > > > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will > > > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using > > > eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) > > > > That's because you didn't clear the previous card's eth0 entry in > > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before you booted up > > the new card. > > I think you can delete the file and it will get regenerated on boot. > Well, it used to be that way, probably best to save a copy first in case > it doesn't work that way any more. I was being conservative. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules may contain other information. I have an Acer laptop that for some reason names the wifi interface as another eth unless I keep a line in there. Cheers, David.
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2uem-7Lf-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156970 |
On Friday 28 August 2015 10:32:15 Ric Moore wrote: > On 08/28/2015 08:39 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > >>> Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit : > >>>> An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet > >>>> NIC because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its > >>>> stead, your network config will be buggered as the system will > >>>> givethe new NICt a name different from the one assigned to the > >>>> old one, since it will have a different MAC address.., > >>> > >>> Indeed, after two hours fiddling with firmwares hoping this is a > >>> software problem, then cables and hubs to find where the problem > >>> exactly is, then one hour and a half riding the subway to the > >>> other side of town where the shops that have discrete network > >>> cards nowadays are, and finally after you ruined six months uptime > >>> to shutdown and install the newly-bought card, editing a small > >>> config file is really the straw that broke the camel's back. > >> > >> Honestly, I don't think it's that bad. > > > > Chris, what happened to your sense of humour? ;-) This isn't like > > you! > > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using eth1 > right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :) Ric Thats nothing Ric, while looking for a machine to run my new mill, I moved the hard drive with the installed cnc running release to a different box several times, so it is now using eth5. I know how to fix it now, but have been lost in the search for my round tuit. I have a machine broke down ATM, but should have it back running in another day or so. Yes, its a certified PITA and needs fixed by debian or the maintainer. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-08-28 18:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2uo3-8ca-35@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156985 |
On Friday 28 August 2015 16:57:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > Yes, its a certified PITA and needs fixed by debian or the > maintainer. It has become a Monty Python parrot - in other words a dead one. See the beginning of this thread. Lisi
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q2vaq-FH-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #156987 |
On Friday 28 August 2015 12:02:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 28 August 2015 16:57:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Yes, its a certified PITA and needs fixed by debian or the > > maintainer. > > It has become a Monty Python parrot - in other words a dead one. See > the beginning of this thread. > > Lisi I have assumed that dhcpd can probably deal with it if running network-mangler. But I am staticly addressed, and N-M is the first thing I excise after a new install. Maybe even wicd can but I haven't used it recently either as its not part of a default install. My local network is 100% static. So when udev screws me, I an not able to access anything or anybody to ask what hapoened. And static cannot deal with its interfaces being renamed after the interface has been brought up. I guess the udev way is the way it will be, but in that event, the bug, a huge one, needs a fixit script included with udev, and an entry in the udev man page under "see also' so anyone with the sense to run man network would see as a see also. Neither exist that I am aware of, and I take the ignoring of folks who use static addressing into consideration in terms of having a working network rug jerked out from under them not at all well. I will therefore bitch. Fortunately it was recorded in the messages file, which told me what I had to do to make it work once again. Would our mythical Joe and Judy Lunchbucket user have what it takes to fix it? Heck no. But why should I be punished because I use static addresss defined in the hosts file? Maybe a bit more trouble to setup initially, but that was 17+ years ago when it was the only way to do it. And its far simpler to maintain than all the moving targets udev and dhcp can be and are giving us, IMO just to harrass the long time users, which it does a fine job of. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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