Re: Adapter Names on Stretch

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Adapter Names on Stretch
Date	2015-08-28 19:00 +0200
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On Friday 28 August 2015 12:02:01 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Friday 28 August 2015 16:57:47 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Yes, its a certified PITA and needs fixed by debian or the
> > maintainer.
>
> It has become a Monty Python parrot - in other words a dead one.  See
> the beginning of this thread.
>
> Lisi

I have assumed that dhcpd can probably deal with it if running 
network-mangler.  But I am staticly addressed, and N-M is the first 
thing I excise after a new install.

Maybe even wicd can but I haven't used it recently either as its not part 
of a default install.  My local network is 100% static.  So when udev 
screws me, I an not able to access anything or anybody to ask what 
hapoened.  And static cannot deal with its interfaces being renamed 
after the interface has been brought up.

I guess the udev way is the way it will be, but in that event, the bug, a 
huge one, needs a fixit script included with udev, and an entry in the 
udev man page under "see also' so anyone with the sense to run man 
network would see as a see also.

Neither exist that I am aware of, and I take the ignoring of folks who 
use static addressing into consideration in terms of having a working 
network rug jerked out from under them not at all well.  I will 
therefore bitch.  Fortunately it was recorded in the messages file, 
which told me what I had to do to make it work once again.  Would our 
mythical Joe and Judy Lunchbucket user have what it takes to fix it?  
Heck no.

But why should I be punished because I use static addresss defined in the 
hosts file?  Maybe a bit more trouble to setup initially, but that was 
17+ years ago when it was the only way to do it.  And its far simpler to 
maintain than all the moving targets udev and dhcp can be and are giving 
us, IMO just to harrass the long time users, which it does a fine job 
of.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Thread

Adapter Names on Stretch Tim Tepatti <ttepatti@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 18:50 +0200
  Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2015-08-26 19:10 +0200
    Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-26 19:20 +0200
      Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2015-08-26 20:10 +0200
        Re: Adapter Names on Stretch "Gian Uberto Lauri" <saint@eng.it>  - 2015-08-27 09:50 +0200
          Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2015-08-27 10:10 +0200
      Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-26 20:40 +0200
      Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-08-26 21:00 +0200
        Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-26 22:30 +0200
          Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2015-08-27 00:10 +0200
            Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-27 01:40 +0200
  Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-08-26 21:20 +0200
  Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2015-08-26 21:30 +0200
  Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2015-08-26 22:30 +0200
    Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-26 23:00 +0200
      Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-26 23:50 +0200
      Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-08-27 00:00 +0200
        Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 01:30 +0200
          Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-27 02:10 +0200
            Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 03:20 +0200
              Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-27 03:30 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 04:20 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-27 12:00 +0200
              Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-08-28 15:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-28 15:50 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 16:10 +0200
        Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-27 20:10 +0200
          Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:50 +0200
            Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:40 +0200
              Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-28 17:30 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 17:50 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 00:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2015-08-29 08:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Matt Ventura <mattventura@mattventura.net> - 2015-08-29 09:30 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2015-08-29 11:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-29 17:50 +0200
              Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 18:00 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 18:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 19:00 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 19:50 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 03:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 03:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 03:50 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 04:00 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 04:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 04:20 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 04:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:20 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-08-29 12:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-29 15:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-30 03:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-30 06:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-30 07:30 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-30 21:00 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-31 03:50 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT] Charles Kroeger <ckrogrr@frankensteinface.com> - 2015-09-07 09:00 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 21:40 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 06:10 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-08-28 21:20 +0200
                Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 23:40 +0200
            Re: Adapter Names on Stretch Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-08-29 00:10 +0200

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