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  Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-01-14 11:00 +0100
    Re: Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable? Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2022-01-14 16:40 +0100
      Re: Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-15 18:40 +0100
        Re: Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-01-17 23:20 +0100
          Re: Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable? "sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net> - 2022-06-05 08:10 +0200
            Re: Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable? "sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net> - 2022-06-05 09:10 +0200

#243981 — Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable?

Hi,

zira:~> apt-show-versions -a clang-13
clang-13:amd64 1:13.0.0-9+b2 install ok installed
No stable version
No stable-updates version
clang-13:amd64 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing      ftp.debian.org
clang-13:amd64 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 unstable     ftp.debian.org
clang-13:amd64 1:13.0.1~+rc2-1~exp1 experimental ftp.debian.org
clang-13:amd64/testing 1:13.0.0-9+b2 upgradeable to 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4

So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable,
but the changelog says:

llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium

  * Fix the cmake file with the mlir introducing

 -- Sylvestre Ledru <sylvestre@debian.org>  Thu, 06 Jan 2022 14:30:59 +0100
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#243984

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable,
>but the changelog says:
>
>llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium

Because despite what the changelog or the version string say, the
maintainer uploaded that version to unstable:

https://tracker.debian.org/news/1293514/accepted-llvm-toolchain-13-11301rc1-1exp4-source-into-unstable/



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On Vi, 14 ian 22, 15:37:21, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable,
> > but the changelog says:
> > 
> > llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium
> 
> Because despite what the changelog or the version string say, the
> maintainer uploaded that version to unstable:
> 
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/1293514/accepted-llvm-toolchain-13-11301rc1-1exp4-source-into-unstable/

In this particular case yes, though as far as I know it's possible that 
a Maintainer re-uploads the same package to unstable after it's been 
uploaded to experimental first.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#244144

On 2022-01-15 18:33:23 +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 14 ian 22, 15:37:21, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable,
> > > but the changelog says:
> > > 
> > > llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium
> > 
> > Because despite what the changelog or the version string say, the
> > maintainer uploaded that version to unstable:
> > 
> > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1293514/accepted-llvm-toolchain-13-11301rc1-1exp4-source-into-unstable/
> 
> In this particular case yes, though as far as I know it's possible that 
> a Maintainer re-uploads the same package to unstable after it's been 
> uploaded to experimental first.

Thanks. I think I'll have to rely on what "apt-show-versions -a"
says to be sure that it has really been in unstable.

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#248786

Thanks for the reminder

I have a still spare thin client free for testing.

I could use this one for learning bug-fixing.

I'll start reading the mailing lists more carefully.


Arne

On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:11:50 +0100
Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote:

> On 2022-01-15 18:33:23 +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Vi, 14 ian 22, 15:37:21, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable,
> > > > but the changelog says:
> > > > 
> > > > llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium
> > > 
> > > Because despite what the changelog or the version string say, the
> > > maintainer uploaded that version to unstable:
> > > 
> > > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1293514/accepted-llvm-toolchain-13-11301rc1-1exp4-source-into-unstable/
> > 
> > In this particular case yes, though as far as I know it's possible that 
> > a Maintainer re-uploads the same package to unstable after it's been 
> > uploaded to experimental first.
> 
> Thanks. I think I'll have to rely on what "apt-show-versions -a"
> says to be sure that it has really been in unstable.
> 

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#248789

It has a serial connector, so I can get LIRC running again.

I start studying my self programmed LIRC powered remote control system back to use.

[LIRC is the tool for re-use my old self-programmed TV remote controls

Always handy, a free tool to be able to get more remote controls in the house,
keep my old self programmed remote controls in use again - 
the old ones are more reliable - and it is good to protect the environment]

Arne



On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 08:07:14 +0200
"sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the reminder
> 
> I have a still spare thin client free for testing.
> 
> I could use this one for learning bug-fixing.
> 
> I'll start reading the mailing lists more carefully.
> 
> 
> Arne
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:11:50 +0100
> Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 2022-01-15 18:33:23 +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > On Vi, 14 ian 22, 15:37:21, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > > So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable,
> > > > > but the changelog says:
> > > > > 
> > > > > llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium
> > > > 
> > > > Because despite what the changelog or the version string say, the
> > > > maintainer uploaded that version to unstable:
> > > > 
> > > > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1293514/accepted-llvm-toolchain-13-11301rc1-1exp4-source-into-unstable/
> > > 
> > > In this particular case yes, though as far as I know it's possible that 
> > > a Maintainer re-uploads the same package to unstable after it's been 
> > > uploaded to experimental first.
> > 
> > Thanks. I think I'll have to rely on what "apt-show-versions -a"
> > says to be sure that it has really been in unstable.
> > 
> 

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