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| Started by | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| First post | 2021-06-26 22:40 +0200 |
| Last post | 2021-06-27 14:10 +0200 |
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Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-26 22:40 +0200
Re: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-06-26 23:30 +0200
Re: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-06-27 00:20 +0200
Re: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-27 11:30 +0200
Re: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-06-27 14:20 +0200
Resolved: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-27 13:00 +0200
Re: Resolved: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-06-27 14:20 +0200
Re: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-06-27 14:10 +0200
| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2021-06-26 22:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional |
| Message-ID | <CunfP-22e-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next icon is placed? Just curious ;/ TIA
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| From | Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> |
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| Date | 2021-06-26 23:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <Cuo2e-2x1-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236506 |
On 27/6/21 4:30 am, Richard Owlett wrote: > Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. > I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing > monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next icon > is placed? > > Just curious ;/ > TIA > > > > This is not an answer to your question, but, rather, something that arises, because of your question. You have posted to this list, a number of different queries, relating to the MATE interface. This also happens on the Ubuntu users list. A"flavour" of Ubuntu, exists, named UbuntuMATE (or, however a person wants to write the name), in addition to the other flavours;Lubuntu, Xubuntu,Kubuntu, etc. With Debian, different flavours, also exist, from memory. But, with MATE, whilst a Debian-mate mailing lists exists, to which reference was made, in response to a previous thread involving a query about MATE running on Debian, the Debian-mate list appears to have posts relating to only bug reports, and, announcements or security announcements. I think that MATE also runs as a desktop environment, on dragonflyBSD (if not the other BSD distributions, also). But, whilst (independently operated and administered) users mailing lists exist, for Thunderbird (two separate users lists), Firefox, and Seamonkey, no users list appears to exist for either UbuntuMATE, or, MATE running on Debian, or, for the MATE desktop environment (if that is the correct term), across the different platforms. The question then arises - would it be worthwhile, to start a users mailing list, for MATE desktop interface (and applications that are part of the MATE environment), to deal with MATE users across different platforms? I think that MATE also runs as a desktop environment, on dragonflyBSD (if not the other BSD distributions, also). So, I wonder about the worthwhileness (?) of setting up a new MATE users mailing list. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..............
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| From | Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> |
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| Date | 2021-06-27 00:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CuoOB-32y-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236507 |
On 27/6/21 5:07 am, Bret Busby wrote: > On 27/6/21 4:30 am, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. >> I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing >> monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next >> icon is placed? >> >> Just curious ;/ >> TIA >> >> >> >> > > This is not an answer to your question, but, rather, something that > arises, because of your question. > > You have posted to this list, a number of different queries, relating to > the MATE interface. > > This also happens on the Ubuntu users list. > Just to clarify - I did not mean that Richard Owlett also posts queries about the MATE desktop environment, to the Ubuntu users list; what I meant (and, should have explicitly worded), is that queries also get posted to the Ubuntu users mailing list, relating to the MATE desktop environment and its applications. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..............
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2021-06-27 11:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CuzgZ-1n4-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236508 |
On 06/26/2021 04:49 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 27/6/21 5:07 am, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 27/6/21 4:30 am, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. >>> I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing >>> monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next >>> icon is placed? >>> >>> Just curious ;/ >>> TIA >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> This is not an answer to your question, but, rather, something that >> arises, because of your question. >> >> You have posted to this list, a number of different queries, relating >> to the MATE interface. >> >> This also happens on the Ubuntu users list. >> > > Just to clarify - I did not mean that Richard Owlett also posts queries > about the MATE desktop environment, to the Ubuntu users list; what I > meant (and, should have explicitly worded), is that queries also get > posted to the Ubuntu users mailing list, relating to the MATE desktop > environment and its applications. > No problem. I took it as you intended. In threads I've begun, most mention MATE to establish my environment. Roughly 10% of those might be said to be "about MATE". But the underlying question in most of those questions is about the OS but the DE strongly influences what was observed. Does that make sense. I don't see a strong need for another mailing list. YMMV
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| From | Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> |
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| Date | 2021-06-27 14:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CuBVv-3c1-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236507 |
On 6/26/21 2:07 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 27/6/21 4:30 am, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. >> I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing >> monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next >> icon is placed? >> >> Just curious ;/ >> TIA >> > > But, with MATE, whilst a Debian-mate mailing lists exists, to which > reference was made, in response to a previous thread involving a query > about MATE running on Debian, the Debian-mate list appears to have > posts relating to only bug reports, and, announcements or security > announcements. > true, not as I would expect. > > The question then arises - would it be worthwhile, to start a users > mailing list, for MATE desktop interface (and applications that are > part of the MATE environment), to deal with MATE users across > different platforms? > yes, a Debian mate user list would be quite welcome > > > So, I wonder about the worthwhileness (?) of setting up a new MATE > users mailing list. I do see questions here about other platforms, and Mate, but they kinda get lost. one needs watch daily, or more often. UbuntuMATE is quite different, they don't use the full suite of Mate apps, using odd (to me) substitute...and continues to go their own way. Most of the Ubuntu derivatives do the same, often loosing functions and features in the process. a more central location for Mate specific Q&A would be welcome
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2021-06-27 13:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Resolved: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional |
| Message-ID | <CuAG6-2aZ-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236506 |
On 06/26/2021 03:30 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. > I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing > monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next icon > is placed? > > Just curious ;/ > TIA I received an off-list reply saying, in part: > > "Organise desktop by name" from the desktop (right click) menu results > in a broadly rectangular formation of icons, but doesn't seem to impose > alphabetical order as might be expected, nor indeed any afaics, at least > in Buster. You may know this already, and the "keep aligned" option > (to keep new icons in the pattern or some future point of it), though the > space between the desktop left edge and the top and left of the first icon > row is unequal. That solved my problem.
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| From | Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> |
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| Date | 2021-06-27 14:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Resolved: Can MATE DE be attractive as well as functional |
| Message-ID | <CuBVv-3c1-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236522 |
On 6/27/21 3:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/26/2021 03:30 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. >> I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing >> monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next >> icon is placed? >> >> Just curious ;/ >> TIA > > I received an off-list reply saying, in part: >> >> "Organise desktop by name" from the desktop (right click) menu results >> in a broadly rectangular formation of icons, but doesn't seem to impose >> alphabetical order as might be expected, nor indeed any afaics, at least >> in Buster. You may know this already, and the "keep aligned" option >> (to keep new icons in the pattern or some future point of it), though >> the >> space between the desktop left edge and the top and left of the first >> icon >> row is unequal. > > That solved my problem. > > Interesting. I just tried that, first the "keep aligned" toggle and then the "organize by name" function. at first it seemed OK, a widely spaced grid and first folders (and shortcuts to folders) alphabetically, then files alphabetically. then I deleted a few and created some new ones. The results were not as expected... "keep aligned" needs to be run again if you want that pattern. I do not. yes, it would be handy to have new icons fall in a logical and predictable location. * perhaps a feature request upstream is in order. > >
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| From | Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> |
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| Date | 2021-06-27 14:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CuBLP-38D-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #236506 |
On 6/26/21 1:30 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Can icons placed on desktop be in a regular geometric pattern. > I think it tries to do that. But over the years I've had differing > monitor geometries. Does operator have any control over where next > icon is placed? to my knowledge no. there is the "organize by name" function and the "keep aligned" toggle. yes, it would be handy to have new icons fall in a more predictable location. > > Just curious ;/ > TIA > > > > >
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