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  need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-02-25 21:00 +0100
    Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 IL Ka <kazakevichilya@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 21:10 +0100
      Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-02-25 22:20 +0100
        Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 IL Ka <kazakevichilya@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 23:20 +0100
          Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-02-25 23:40 +0100
    Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 23:40 +0100
    Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2021-02-26 01:40 +0100
    Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 11:30 +0100
      Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 11:50 +0100
        Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-02-26 14:40 +0100
          Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64 David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 23:00 +0100

#232112 — need to run the windows version of cura for amd64

Greetings all;

I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM 
printer, aka a 3d printer. A better printer in the medium priced 
category at a bit over $1800 from Amazon.

I have the appimage of cura but that version has no knowledge of this 
printer, so it abuses it very noisily. The two major diffs are that the 
dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home, whereas 
the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.

They have an adapted version of cura for a free download, but only in 
Win64 and mac os versions, no appimages in sight.

So, what is the best winderz emulator we have, to run this:

Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe

Which file says is a:

Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS 
Windows, Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive

I have no experience wrangling wine or whatever.

Thanks all;

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#232114

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>
> So, what is the best winderz emulator we have, to run this:
>
> Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe
>
> Which file says is a:
>
> Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS
> Windows, Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive
>

There is a tool named Wine.
It is not an emulator but Win32 API implementation.
Many windows apps work on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

 https://wiki.debian.org/Wine

> PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386,
It seems that you need to pay attention on the first step:
https://wiki.debian.org/Wine#Step_1:_Enable_multiarch

Some apps do not work with Wine because it is impossible to make 100%
compatible implementation of proprietary API.
In this case you may download the evaluation version of Windows 10 from MS
website, and install it as the second OS (see doubleboot)
or try running it inside of the Virtual Machine like VirtualBox. (KVM or
qemu may also work)

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#232117

On Thursday 25 February 2021 15:01:28 IL Ka wrote:

> > So, what is the best winderz emulator we have, to run this:
> >
> > Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe
> >
> > Which file says is a:
> >
> > Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386,
> > for MS Windows, Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive
>
> There is a tool named Wine.
> It is not an emulator but Win32 API implementation.
> Many windows apps work on it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
>
>  https://wiki.debian.org/Wine

And those destructions get me into fix-broken hell instantly as it want 
to remove xorg.  Maybe I should goto the truck and retrieve the only 
winderz machine I own, normally reserved for drawing smith charts while 
I'm tuning AM broadcasting towers. A $350 alllinone with win10-home in 
it. Glacial speed. Then I've got to find table room for it. And theres 
not room in that room, I was married to a packrat for 31 years.  Grrrr.

Thanks.
>
> > PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386,
>
> It seems that you need to pay attention on the first step:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Wine#Step_1:_Enable_multiarch
>
> Some apps do not work with Wine because it is impossible to make 100%
> compatible implementation of proprietary API.
> In this case you may download the evaluation version of Windows 10
> from MS website, and install it as the second OS (see doubleboot)
> or try running it inside of the Virtual Machine like VirtualBox. (KVM
> or qemu may also work)


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#232120

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>
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
> >
> >  https://wiki.debian.org/Wine
>
> And those destructions get me into fix-broken hell instantly as it want
> to remove xorg.

An official Debian instruction broke your installation?
Hm.. It works for me, at least on testing (bullseye)

Here is what I did
$ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update
$ apt upgrade
$ sudo apt install wine wine32 wine64
I then downloaded total commander
$ wine Downloads/tcmd951x32.exe
[installed it in c:\totalcmd]
$ wine ~/.wine/drive_c/totalcmd/TOTALCMD.EXE

I now see the total commander:)



> Maybe I should goto the truck and retrieve the only
> winderz machine I own,

If you have a windows machine, then it is much easier to use it

A friend of mine uses dual boot to run Windows on the same machine to play
games : https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/Windows

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#232121

On Thursday 25 February 2021 17:11:33 IL Ka wrote:

> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
> > >
> > >  https://wiki.debian.org/Wine
> >
> > And those destructions get me into fix-broken hell instantly as it
> > want to remove xorg.
>
> An official Debian instruction broke your installation?
> Hm.. It works for me, at least on testing (bullseye)
>
This box is still on stretch. I need to find some 1T SSD's I can afford 
and I'll update, probably about the time bullseye becomes stable.  In 
the meantime I'm trying to make room for the winderz box in the room my 
now deceased 31 year packrat wife kept all her stuff in. It really ought 
to be sick bird for two packrats to marry. But she was good to have 
around before COPD took her. Didn't quite make it to her 81st.


> Here is what I did
> $ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update
> $ apt upgrade
> $ sudo apt install wine wine32 wine64
> I then downloaded total commander
> $ wine Downloads/tcmd951x32.exe
> [installed it in c:\totalcmd]
> $ wine ~/.wine/drive_c/totalcmd/TOTALCMD.EXE
>
> I now see the total commander:)
>
> > Maybe I should goto the truck and retrieve the only
> > winderz machine I own,
>
> If you have a windows machine, then it is much easier to use it
>
> A friend of mine uses dual boot to run Windows on the same machine to
> play games : https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/Windows

Linux has plenty of games to play.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#232122

mick crane wrote:

> If it were me I'd get a Dell with a win10 pro licence sticker, and
> download the windows installer.
> You can select not to install the "helpful" stuff and there's
> destructions on the net for disabling Cortina and the like with Group
> Policy editor or something. Might be simplest in the long run.

+1

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#232131

On 2/25/21 12:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM
> printer, aka a 3d printer. A better printer in the medium priced
> category at a bit over $1800 from Amazon.
> 
> I have the appimage of cura but that version has no knowledge of this
> printer, so it abuses it very noisily. The two major diffs are that the
> dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home, whereas
> the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.
> 
> They have an adapted version of cura for a free download, but only in
> Win64 and mac os versions, no appimages in sight.
> 
> So, what is the best winderz emulator we have, to run this:
> 
> Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe
> 
> Which file says is a:
> 
> Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS
> Windows, Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive
> 
> I have no experience wrangling wine or whatever.
> 
> Thanks all;
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> 
Hi Gene,

Several years ago I needed a Windows emulator to run a pal programmer. 
I found that the application program would run fine with wine but it 
expected to load a custom hardware driver which Linux would not allow. 
I think you are going to run into the same problem with your printer.  I 
believe wine will work with serial and parallel ports if the application 
goes through Linux but a custom driver won't work.

There is a commercial version of wine called Crossover which is not 
unreasonably expensive.  I suggest you check with them on the state of 
application program drivers. www.codeweavers.com

Best regards,
Fred

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#232146

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 06:51, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM
> printer, aka a 3d printer.

> the
> dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home, whereas
> the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.

I would have thought that would be a reconfigurable setting of the
machine's G-code interpreter, regardless of whatever software
you choose to drive it with.

If that interpreter is 'Grbl' for example, the documentation is here:
https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#3--direction-port-invert-mask
https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#23---homing-dir-invert-mask

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#232147

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:25, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 06:51, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> > I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM
> > printer, aka a 3d printer.

> > the
> > dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home, whereas
> > the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.

> I would have thought that would be a reconfigurable setting of the
> machine's G-code interpreter, regardless of whatever software
> you choose to drive it with.

> If that interpreter is 'Grbl' for example, the documentation is here:
> https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#3--direction-port-invert-mask
> https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#23---homing-dir-invert-mask

More explanation of $23 is here:
https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Set-up-the-Homing-Cycle#homing-direction

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#232154

On Friday 26 February 2021 05:42:22 David wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:25, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 06:51, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > > I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM
> > > printer, aka a 3d printer.
> > >
> > > the
> > > dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home,
> > > whereas the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.
> >
> > I would have thought that would be a reconfigurable setting of the
> > machine's G-code interpreter, regardless of whatever software
> > you choose to drive it with.
> >
> > If that interpreter is 'Grbl' for example, the documentation is
> > here:
> > https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#3--directi
> >on-port-invert-mask
> > https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#23---homin
> >g-dir-invert-mask
>
> More explanation of $23 is here:
> https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Set-up-the-Homing-Cycle#homing-direc
>tion

They have put a toucjscreen gui in front of everything and I've not found 
anyplace to override its automatic calibrations, somethig its very easy 
to do to an ender 3 pro.  And its readily apparent that its firmware is 
not gpl'd altho the license tab scrolls thru all the gpl contributions 
in it including busybox. And they denied any connection between the lack 
of networking and my acceptance of a hidden eula. They promised to get 
back to me yesterday about its total lack of network connection with the 
exact same style of static settings that just works for 6 other machines 
here. But the day passed without a peep from them. At the price of it, 
I'd expect them to be giving my problems with it a MUCH higher priority.

Conncted to a usb extension cable, udev does find it but bitches because 
the extension cable is usb2.

[750334.478243] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=0
[750334.478249] usb 1-3: Product: Standard USB Hub
[750334.479881] hub 1-3:1.0: USB hub found
[750334.480012] hub 1-3:1.0: 4 ports detected
[750334.765533] usb 1-3.4: new full-speed USB device number 37 using 
xhci_hcd

Thats the 10 meter extension cable, which is not capable of usb3 speeds.

[750334.867767] usb 1-3.4: not running at top speed; connect to a high 
speed hub
[750334.868693] usb 1-3.4: New USB device found, idVendor=2a89, 
idProduct=888d, bcdDevice= 0.02
[750334.868704] usb 1-3.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3
[750334.868710] usb 1-3.4: Product: BOSCH Dremel 3D Printer
[750334.868714] usb 1-3.4: Manufacturer: BOSCH
[750334.868719] usb 1-3.4: SerialNumber: 030077301

But the cura AppImage 4.8.0 can't find it, and they did admit that it 
could not have files dumped to it over the usb connection. So thats 
twice I've been denied access to an $1800 printer. That leaves 
sneakernet using a supplied 16Gigabyte usb key.  But the cura AppImage, 
while having access to serveral hundred printers so it can drive them, 
this printer is not in that list.

What I'd like to do is take that .exe apart, find that printers profile 
in it, and move it to the AppImage. But a pulmonary embolism I did 
manage to survive 7 years ago, something less than 2% survive those, has 
taken that ability away from me. That, and other side effects of 86 
years now has me hat in hand, humbly asking for help.

Thank you David.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#232172

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 at 00:33, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> On Friday 26 February 2021 05:42:22 David wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:25, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 06:51, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> > > > I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM
> > > > printer, aka a 3d printer.

> > > > the
> > > > dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home,
> > > > whereas the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.

After reading your messages, I gather that this is the root problem
that you are attempting to fix, and it is the only issue that I am
attempting to assist you with.

> > > I would have thought that would be a reconfigurable setting of the
> > > machine's G-code interpreter, regardless of whatever software
> > > you choose to drive it with.

> > > If that interpreter is 'Grbl' for example, the documentation is here:
> > > https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#3--direction-port-invert-mask
> > > https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#23---homing-dir-invert-mask

> > More explanation of $23 is here:
> > https://github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Set-up-the-Homing-Cycle#homing-direction

> They have put a toucjscreen gui in front of everything and I've not found
> anyplace to override its automatic calibrations

Disclaimer: I don't know 3D printers, but I have been using Gcode
for CNC every day for months.

I would expect that you just need to establish a serial connection to
it and then send $23=whatever. Any software that sends Gcode
can do this, or even just a terminal emulator connected to the serial
port, for example 'screen -r <tty>'.

[...]

> Conncted to a usb extension cable, udev does find it but bitches because
> the extension cable is usb2.

Surely usb2 is adequate for the amount of data being transferred.

[...]

> But the cura AppImage 4.8.0 can't find it, and they did admit that it
> could not have files dumped to it over the usb connection.

I'm not sure what you mean here, but I would expect a 3d printer to accept
Gcode over USB.

[...]

> So thats
> twice I've been denied access to an $1800 printer.

I think you're focussing on imaginary, wrong solutions.

> That leaves
> sneakernet using a supplied 16Gigabyte usb key.  But the cura AppImage,
> while having access to serveral hundred printers so it can drive them,
> this printer is not in that list.

> What I'd like to do is take that .exe apart, find that printers profile
> in it, and move it to the AppImage.

I think you're focussing on imaginary, wrong solutions.

[...]

> That, and other side effects of 86
> years now has me hat in hand, humbly asking for help.

And I'm still trying to offer it. :)
My apologies if I am misunderstanding the situation.

I think you just need to send the Gcode over the USB port. I expect it
only needs to be done once to permanently reconfigure the machine homing.

Or ask in some 3D printer forum where folks are familiar with
your machine, or search the web for 3D printer homing configuration
guidance.

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