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  why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 19:30 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 19:40 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 19:50 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-06-07 19:40 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 20:00 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-07 21:40 +0200
          Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
          Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-08 00:10 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 20:00 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-06-07 20:10 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 20:30 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 20:50 +0200
          Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 21:20 +0200
            Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 21:30 +0200
              Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 22:10 +0200
                Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 23:00 +0200
                  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-11 23:20 +0200
                    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-12 00:30 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-08 00:10 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 00:50 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Geoff Reidy <geoff.reidy@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 02:50 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 08:30 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-06-08 15:10 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-11 23:20 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list A_Man_Without_Clue <love.chaser@gmail.com> - 2020-06-12 03:40 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-12 10:40 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Admin4 <admin4@dwaves.de> - 2020-06-12 10:50 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-14 02:00 +0200
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#223167 — why !oh why Debian and application list

Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind
how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu.

The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century.

I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
where logic would suggest it be.

I had to dial it up from the command line.

I'm willing and ready to be educated on why things are such with Debian.

Thanks a lot.

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#223168

Hi,

7 juin 2020 à 19:23 de notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de:

> I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
> where logic would suggest it be.
>
>From my side, Picard appears under Multimedia>MusicBrainz Picard.
Here is the related desktop file (org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop):

[Desktop Entry]
Name=MusicBrainz Picard
Comment=Tag your music with the next generation MusicBrainz tagger
Exec=picard %F
Terminal=false
Type=Application
StartupNotify=true
StartupWMClass=MusicBrainz-Picard
Icon=org.musicbrainz.Picard
Categories=AudioVideo;Audio;AudioVideoEditing;
MimeType=audio/x-mp3;audio/ogg;audio/mpeg;application/ogg;audio/x-flac;audio/x-flac+ogg;audio/x-vorbis+ogg;audio/x-speex+ogg;audio/x-oggflac;audio/x-musepack;audio/x-tta;audio/x-ms-wma;audio/x-wavpack;

Best regards,
l0f4r0

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#223170

On 6/7/20 7:37 PM, l0f4r0@tuta.io wrote:

>  From my side, Picard appears under Multimedia>MusicBrainz Picard.
> Here is the related desktop file (org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop):

Thanks a lot. But I do not have 'Multimedia,' instead Applications >
Sound & Video

Thanks.

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#223169

On 06/07/2020 12:23 PM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
> Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind
> how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu.
> 
> The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century.
> 
> I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
> where logic would suggest it be.
> 
> I had to dial it up from the command line.
> 
> I'm willing and ready to be educated on why things are such with Debian.
> 
> Thanks a lot.

That is an easy question.
The majority of labor to improve Debian is free.
The issues that are worked on are those the free labor is interested in.

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#223171

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On 6/7/20 7:37 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 06/07/2020 12:23 PM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
>> Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind
>> how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu.
>>
>> The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century.
>>
>> I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
>> where logic would suggest it be.
>>
>> I had to dial it up from the command line.
>>
>> I'm willing and ready to be educated on why things are such with Debian.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>
> That is an easy question.
> The majority of labor to improve Debian is free.
> The issues that are worked on are those the free labor is interested in.

Thanks for this insight. And you're right. And I will add, it was never
the ambition of Debian to replace the User experience with Windows or
OSX, unlike Ubuntu and many others. I've stuck with Debian for what I
cannot find in Ubuntu; stability and security. But user experience is
well below compared to other distros. It's unfortunate, then it seems,
that Linux seems destined for the geek world. This is rather
unfortunate, as I do believe with Linux the computing world could be
very different. I want to imagine a world of using a stable and secure
computer to achieve much more. Or, perhaps my frustration is influenced
by chastisement from a friend recently, a programmer, who said; life's
short, time is precious, why spend time getting things to work on Linux?
This was again, in response to a user experience, trying to share out
desktop remotely. Of course, we gave up.

Thanks, however.

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#223201

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 19:54:07 +0200
Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> wrote:


> I've stuck with Debian
> for what I cannot find in Ubuntu; stability and security. But user
> experience is well below compared to other distros. It's unfortunate,
> then it seems, that Linux seems destined for the geek world. This is
> rather unfortunate, as I do believe with Linux the computing world
> could be very different. I want to imagine a world of using a stable
> and secure computer to achieve much more.

Wouldn't that be something like Android? Where the user no longer owns
his computer, and therefore cannot break it, where there is one and
only one minimally-customisable user interface, where only software
approved by the OS vendor is available.... where the software probably
wouldn't be open source, as there would be no point....

I have an Android phone and tablet, and I absolutely hate the OS. It is
such incredibly hard work to do anything that the masses don't
routinely want to do. I managed to find a web server that would
interface with a PHP server, and there's a version of MariaDB
available. But I couldn't get them all running for more that a few
seconds. To achieve that, I'd have had to use a third-party rooting
tool, which might contain anything, to adjust the OS running parameters
to allow three serious applications to run together. I used to run all
that stuff on a PC, and much more, with fewer resources than this
tablet. I've been spoilt by Debian.

Let's face it, Android is a media appliance, and that's what the masses
want. That's probably where Ubuntu will end up. It's where your stable
OS with a great user experience would end up, because that's the
user experience that the masses want. It's not what I want from a
computer.

-- 
Joe

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#223208

On 6/7/20 9:33 PM, Joe wrote:

> Wouldn't that be something like Android? Where the user no longer owns
> his computer, and therefore cannot break it, where there is one and
> only one minimally-customisable user interface, where only software
> approved by the OS vendor is available.... where the software probably
> wouldn't be open source, as there would be no point....
My comments were not about software access or users' 'right to brake a
computer.' It was simply to be able to install and use an application. I
don't think having the ability to install and use an application without
resorting to kung-fu Linux is asking too much.
>
> I have an Android phone and tablet, and I absolutely hate the OS. It is
> such incredibly hard work to do anything that the masses don't
> routinely want to do. I managed to find a web server that would
> interface with a PHP server, and there's a version of MariaDB
> available. But I couldn't get them all running for more that a few
> seconds. To achieve that, I'd have had to use a third-party rooting
> tool, which might contain anything, to adjust the OS running parameters
> to allow three serious applications to run together. I used to run all
> that stuff on a PC, and much more, with fewer resources than this
> tablet. I've been spoilt by Debian.
This 'the masses' vs. 'the elite' narrative is not useful here. But if I
must follow your comments; masses or not, computer has to be functional.
We disagree on how to make it so. I think that Debian allows for much
more than Android (which was not my point of reference) is great. I
think that you can today install something like Picard on Debian and
cannot find it to use it, is, well, not so. Again, I'm not wanting to
install and configure a virtual machine, only a simple, to my mind,
application like Picard.
>
> Let's face it, Android is a media appliance, and that's what the masses
> want. That's probably where Ubuntu will end up. It's where your stable
> OS with a great user experience would end up, because that's the
> user experience that the masses want. It's not what I want from a
> computer.

I think I've responded to this 'masses' narrative. But I will add; why
not work to bring a much more stable and secure OS, such as Debian, to
the 'masses'? That will be a dire public service need fulfilled. Among
your 'masses' I do not think there you will find a soul who prefers to
have a virus infested Windows machine. Or, one that forces them to buy a
new hardware ever so often, as OSX.

Though, now I add, with the fast growth of 64 bit computing, that leaves
many an old machine useless, such as will not install latest versions of
Firefox, Tor, Thunderbird, etc, this too is not a great mark on the
Linux world. I got into Linux when the pitch was: an operating system
that will run on your old computer that Microsoft will no longer
support. That line has since been lost in the Linux world. And sadly so.
Once an OS with potential to reduce e-waste, now a contributor, except
of course, if you have a life to waste trying to find and get old
applications to run on 32 bit systems. BTW, OSX has such a website
devoted to PPC apps. Does this exist in the Linux world?

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#223207

On 07.06.20 19:54, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
> (...) 
> And I will add, it was never 
> the ambition of Debian to replace the User experience with Windows or 
> OSX, unlike Ubuntu and many others. I've stuck with Debian for what I 
> cannot find in Ubuntu; stability and security. But user experience is 
> well below compared to other distros. It's unfortunate, then it seems, 
> that Linux seems destined for the geek world. This is rather 
> unfortunate, as I do believe with Linux the computing world could be 
> very different. I want to imagine a world of using a stable and secure 
> computer to achieve much more.
 > (...)

I am surprised about Ubuntu in your experience not being as stable and 
secure as Debian. While Debian is a philosophy and developing an 
extremely good OS, Ubuntu builds on top of it. Substituting philosophy 
by commercial interests Ubuntu then provides enhancements which the 
voluntary submission in Debian could not achieve. Some of the 
enhancements are security related, for instance, Apparmor support of 
Ubuntu is worth mentioning.
Marco.

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#223210

On 6/7/20 10:22 PM, Marco Möller wrote:
> I am surprised about Ubuntu in your experience not being as stable and
> secure as Debian. While Debian is a philosophy and developing an
> extremely good OS, Ubuntu builds on top of it. Substituting philosophy
> by commercial interests
and that's when I left, (14)04) when they thought it wise to  lace
commercial products into the OS. It was a breach of privacy and trust. I
will never return to Ubuntu. Never
> Ubuntu then provides enhancements which the voluntary submission in
> Debian could not achieve. Some of the enhancements are security
> related, for instance, Apparmor support of Ubuntu is worth mentioning.
Great. They made a mistake that breached trust. That's it for me.
>
> Marco.

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#223215

Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: 
> very different. I want to imagine a world of using a stable and secure
> computer to achieve much more. Or, perhaps my frustration is influenced
> by chastisement from a friend recently, a programmer, who said; life's
> short, time is precious, why spend time getting things to work on Linux?

For one thing, when you make a fix to Linux, everybody else can
get the benefits, too.

This mailing list is a living archive of answers, plus a bunch
of people who are willing to answer questions where they can --
and then those answers are archived and available to help future
people.

-dsr-

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#223172

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On 6/7/20 7:37 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 06/07/2020 12:23 PM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
>> Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind
>> how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu.
>>
>> The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century.
>>
>> I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
>> where logic would suggest it be.
>>
>> I had to dial it up from the command line.
>>
>> I'm willing and ready to be educated on why things are such with Debian.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>
> That is an easy question.
> The majority of labor to improve Debian is free.
> The issues that are worked on are those the free labor is interested in.

Thanks for this insight. And you're right. And I will add, it was never
the ambition of Debian to replace the User experience with Windows or
OSX, unlike Ubuntu and many others. I've stuck with Debian for what I
cannot find in Ubuntu; stability and security. But user experience is
well below compared to other distros. It's unfortunate, then it seems,
that Linux seems destined for the geek world. This is rather
unfortunate, as I do believe with Linux the computing world could be
very different. I want to imagine a world of using a stable and secure
computer to achieve much more. Or, perhaps my frustration is influenced
by chastisement from a friend recently, a programmer, who said; life's
short, time is precious, why spend time getting things to work on Linux?
This was again, in response to a user experience, trying to share our
desktops remotely. Of course, we gave up. It did not work. And I do
believe it was because of my Buster, bursting its way, all the way.

Thanks, however.

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#223174

On 6/7/20 10:23 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
> Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind
> how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu.
>
> The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century.
>
> I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
> where logic would suggest it be.
What window manager/desktop suite are you using?

(those developers/maintainers would know why they don't care to 
accommodate your software)
>
> I had to dial it up from the command line.
>
> I'm willing and ready to be educated on why things are such with Debian.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>

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#223176

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On 6/7/20 7:52 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 6/7/20 10:23 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
>> Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind
>> how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu.
>>
>> The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century.
>>
>> I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video,
>> where logic would suggest it be.
> What window manager/desktop suite are you using?
GNOME Metacity
>
> (those developers/maintainers would know why they don't care to
> accommodate your software)
>>
>> I had to dial it up from the command line.
>>
>> I'm willing and ready to be educated on why things are such with Debian.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
Thanks for asking. And sorry for not mentioning. Easier to complain, I
suppose. But really, it's a basic user experience need, not like trying
to set up a server or virtual machine kind of project. :)

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#223183

What is your output of:
dpkg -L picard

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#223194

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On 6/7/20 8:48 PM, l0f4r0@tuta.io wrote:
> What is your output of:
> dpkg -L picard

Are you sure you want it, it's pretty long. I've made a text document of it.

It's attached, all 8 pages of it. (.odt)

Thanks for asking and helping.

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#223198

OK, just to be sure, can you please copy/paste in 2 text files the content of:
* /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
* /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml

+ give us the output for:
desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop

Best regards,
l0f4r0

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#223205

On 6/7/20 9:24 PM, l0f4r0@tuta.io wrote:
> OK, just to be sure, can you please copy/paste in 2 text files the content of:
> * /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
> * /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml
xscreensaver-properties.desktop
yelp.desktop
zulucrypt-gui.desktop
root@bruda:/usr/share/applications# cd org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
bash: cd: org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop: Not a directory
root@bruda:/usr#

and

root@bruda:/usr# /usr/share/metainfo/
bash: /usr/share/metainfo/: Is a directory
root@bruda:/usr#

>
> + give us the output for:
> desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
root@bruda:/usr# /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
bash: /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop: Permission
denied
root@bruda:/usr#

>
> Best regards,
> l0f4r0
Thanks for your help. Please see above. To be sure, I'm running as
'root.' Should I log into 'regular' user and do these again?

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#223211

Hi,

7 juin 2020 à 22:03 de notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de:

> Thanks for your help. Please see above. To be sure, I'm running as
> 'root.' Should I log into 'regular' user and do these again?
>
Please just run the following commands as a simple user (no need to cd to anything):
* cat /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
* cat /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml
* desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
* echo $?

Best regards,
l0f4r0

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#223359

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On 6/7/20 10:58 PM, l0f4r0@tuta.io wrote:

> Please just run the following commands as a simple user (no need to cd to anything):
> * cat /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
> * cat /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml
> * desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
> * echo $?
Results attached. And thanks a lot!

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#223361

Hi,

11 juin 2020 à 23:13 de notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de:

> On 6/7/20 10:58 PM, l0f4r0@tuta.io wrote:
>
>> Please just run the following commands as a simple user (no need to cd to anything):
>> * cat /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
>> * cat /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml
>> * desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop
>> * echo $?
>>
> Results attached. And thanks a lot!
>
I have the exact same files...
Since your issue is about the DE Applications menu, maybe you could take a chance with packages Alacarte or MenuLibre?

Best regards & Good luck!
l0f4r0

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