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Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

From Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: why !oh why Debian and application list
Date 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
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On 07.06.20 19:54, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote:
> (...) 
> And I will add, it was never 
> the ambition of Debian to replace the User experience with Windows or 
> OSX, unlike Ubuntu and many others. I've stuck with Debian for what I 
> cannot find in Ubuntu; stability and security. But user experience is 
> well below compared to other distros. It's unfortunate, then it seems, 
> that Linux seems destined for the geek world. This is rather 
> unfortunate, as I do believe with Linux the computing world could be 
> very different. I want to imagine a world of using a stable and secure 
> computer to achieve much more.
 > (...)

I am surprised about Ubuntu in your experience not being as stable and 
secure as Debian. While Debian is a philosophy and developing an 
extremely good OS, Ubuntu builds on top of it. Substituting philosophy 
by commercial interests Ubuntu then provides enhancements which the 
voluntary submission in Debian could not achieve. Some of the 
enhancements are security related, for instance, Apparmor support of 
Ubuntu is worth mentioning.
Marco.

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why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 19:30 +0200
  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 19:40 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 19:50 +0200
  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-06-07 19:40 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 20:00 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-07 21:40 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 22:30 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-08 00:10 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 20:00 +0200
  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-06-07 20:10 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 20:30 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 20:50 +0200
        Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 21:20 +0200
          Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 21:30 +0200
            Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-07 22:10 +0200
              Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-07 23:00 +0200
                Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-11 23:20 +0200
                Re: why !oh why Debian and application list l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-06-12 00:30 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-08 00:10 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 00:50 +0200
  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Geoff Reidy <geoff.reidy@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 02:50 +0200
  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 08:30 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-06-08 15:10 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-11 23:20 +0200
  Re: why !oh why Debian and application list A_Man_Without_Clue <love.chaser@gmail.com> - 2020-06-12 03:40 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-06-12 10:40 +0200
      Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Admin4 <admin4@dwaves.de> - 2020-06-12 10:50 +0200
    Re: why !oh why Debian and application list Seeds Notoneofmy <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2020-06-14 02:00 +0200
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