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Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

From Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync
Date 2020-04-06 21:10 +0200
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I am sorry I was not more clear. Been under the weather.

On 4/5/20 1:18 PM, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote:
> On 4/5/20 4:53 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>> I have not tried Nextcloud or ownCloud for a couple years. I only 
>> remember both being either too complex or missing the options I wanted.
>
> What options did you not have with the own/Nextloud ?

I don't remember the details. It was actually a joint decision between 
me and a business associate. We were both looking for tools to share our 
separate storage resources, to backup and archive off-site for each other.

We experimented with several softwares, syncthing was chosen. no regrets.

>
>> [...]
>
>> You can send the 56 character "device identification" to another to 
>> setup a sync of machines, then sync the specific folders you like.
>
> I saw that *Syncthing* uses this method to recognize devices. Is it 
> safer than Nextcloud approach ? (so it seems at least)

I can't judge that, I don't recall the Nextcloud method if it is 
actually different in practice.

using syncthing ID has been quite satisfactory, when a new share is 
setup the info is an email away.

>
>> Critical files can be encrypted individually by other means if you like.
>
> The "other means" provided from *Syncthing* or do you mean independent 
> software that you can use in any approach ?
independent software. He uses encryption on some files and folders and I 
don't. I don't know what software he uses. Perhaps syncthing has such a 
tool, I never looked for one.
>
>> This laptop syncs 6 folders with 5 computers, Three are LAN (wifi and 
>> cabled thru the router) Two are offsite.
>
> Do you mean offline? Only with local/internal access ?

no, off-site. I backup and archive his data here, he does the same for 
me at his offices.

In my mind, the more nodes the better, as odds are there will be an 
active route available 24/7.

the "remote devices" are connected via internet.
my machines are connected via my router locally.

>
>> Local State (Total)  216,932 files   59,099 folders   ~298 GiB total
>> ALL data being synced is a Copy of the working data (true backup)
>> ALL nodes have staggered Backups.
>
> What exactly do you mean; could you please be more detailed?
> Syncthing also uses *central* storage from all workplaces with backup 
> strategies ?
>
I do Not sync any active working data. It is first copied to the sync 
folder, that then syncs with the other nodes.
syncthing provides zero storage. It is a transfer/sync tool between 
separate hardware.
the "cloud" is user owned and controlled.
>> I also use Mega and Dropbox... both are slower, and Dropbox does have 
>> fallout (missing files or corrupt files)
>
> Why do this ?
> Do you use highly secure open source software and then give access to 
> your data to services like dropbox ??? :-o
separate use, it was a sidebar comment. I only use them for small 
specific purposes as needed.
Dropbox is easy to use for sharing with others.
Mega syncs photos and files between my Androids and my computers 
gracefully, then I copy data to my system.
>
>> Try all and see what you prefer. Best wishes.
>
> I actually want to use *Syncthing* for a long time (since I first read 
> about it, enthusiastic about the security and approach it offers) but 
> just because of the *Nextcloud* I have not come to the need if I do. 
> And that is the truth to be honest.
>
try it, setup a couple small folders and see how it fits. the 
documentation is good, and the forum is handy/helpful.
you have nothing to loose. ;-)

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