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Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE?

From Roy <renoch63@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE?
Date 2018-07-26 00:50 +0200
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On 07/25/2018 04:22 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 July 2018 16:27:41 Roy wrote:
>
>> Thanks Floris and Doug for your replies.  Now I know that my question
>> made it to the list and at least one other person has a similar
>> concern with Garmin Express.
>>
>> By Googling this, I have read many different forums and web pages
>> about installing this on Linux.  Most of those discussions were from
>> 2010 ~ 2017.  The only solution indicated to work was to install
>> Windows as a guest in a virtual machine.  Oracle VirtualBox seems to
>> be the most popular.  It is what I have used to evaluate numerous
>> Linux distros until finding those I like the best.
>>
>> Since WINE is still under active development and it is 2018, I was
>> hoping that someone would respond with "It works on WINE if you do
>> this, this and this..."  At least that would let me know that it was
>> possible.  I am now of the opinion that GarminExpress-on-WINE is not
>> possible at this time.  Either use the Windows-in-VBox or
>> Windows-dual-boot solution.
>>
>> I am not a programmer but I consider myself to be a reasonably
>> proficient user from using DOS and various versions of Windows since
>> the early 1980's. I have only been using Linux for about 4 months and
>> Google answers most of my questions.
>>
>> Doug-
>>
>> to try to answer your question a "clean 32-bit Wineprefix", from what
>> I see in WINE is a virtual hard drive designated as C:\ as Windows
>> would do it.  It contains a complete file system that looks like a
>> mini-Windows installation.  It is designated as a 32-bit or 64-bit at
>> the time it is created.  Much like installing a 32 or 64 bit version
>> of Windows.  This is where the Windows program of concern and all of
>> its supporting components get installed.  If you want a more complete
>> explanation please check out the WINE wiki page.
>>
>> So, I am going to stop pursuing this unless any one else responds that
>> they have been able to make it work.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Roy
>>
>> On 07/25/2018 01:13 PM, Doug wrote:
>>> On 07/25/2018 06:18 AM, floris wrote:
>>>> Roy schreef op 2018-07-25 01:37:
>>>>> (G-Express needs dotNetframework.  That is where I get stuck when
>>>>>
>>>>> trying to install it using WINE.)
>>>> Without knowing the .Net version, you could try to use a clean
>>>> 32-bit Wineprefix and use winetricks to install .Net
>>>> ---
>>>> Floris
>>> I have a similar question about installing the Garmin updater. I'm
>>> afraid I don't understand the above. What is meant
>>> by "a clean 32-bit Wineprefix"? Is Wineprefix a file, or what? I
>>> have wine32.32bit, if that is relevant.
>>>
>>> Thanx--doug
> One other utility you might try, dfu, device firmware updater.
>
> I've no clue if that is the same protocol, but I might see if I can
> capture the data file after I've paid for it, and use dfu to put it on
> mine, which is now something like 10+ years out of date. I'd start by
> seeing if dfu recognizes the garmin. But I don't have any great urgency,
> the wife is about to the finish line with COPD, so we aren't going
> anyplace far enough away to need it.
>
Hello Gene,
Thanks for your reply.  Sorry to  hear of your situation with your 
wife.  Best wishes for you and her.

I just looked at the commercial version of wine named CrossOver. They 
have a forum and list of Windows programs that function with it.  Sadly, 
garmin express is listed as "will install but will not run".

With Linux I can connect to the garmin as if it was an external storage 
device to transfer files.

Updating the maps is an entirely different function.  When connected by 
USB, garmin express recognizes the device by model number and serial 
number.  Then checks with the garmin servers to verify that the device 
is eligible for an update.  Only those devices that have "Lifetime map 
updates" are eligible.  (or individual maps can be purchased for those 
without lifetime maps)  Then it verifies and usually updates the 
software before downloading and installing the new map files.  The maps 
are large files about 1.5 Gb or so.  It can take an hour or more to 
update the map files.

I only use this 2 or 3 times a year, so it is not an every day need.  I 
am also now retired, so I don't travel like I used to but I still prefer 
to keep the GPS maps up to date even for local driving.

I also looked at the garmin mobile software that uses Bluetooth but it 
is only for the garmin fitness devices (which I don't use).  My concern 
is for the NUVI series GPS devices.  There is also another way using 
"mapsource".  But I don't think they have the up-to-date maps.

Best regards,
Roy

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GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Roy <renoch63@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 01:40 +0200
  Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2018-07-25 12:30 +0200
    Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2018-07-25 20:40 +0200
      Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Roy <renoch63@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 22:40 +0200
        Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net> - 2018-07-25 23:10 +0200
          Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2018-07-26 01:40 +0200
            Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Roy <renoch63@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 02:40 +0200
        Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-07-25 23:30 +0200
          Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Roy <renoch63@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 00:50 +0200
        Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-07-25 23:40 +0200

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