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Re: Some things related to installation medias

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El 6/11/18 a las 11:38 a. m., Hans escribió:
> Hi folks,
> 
> there are some things, appearing during installation, I I want to mention.
> 
> 1. On the installation medias (debian/stable) are always the kernels of 
> the stable repository. However, it appears from time to time, that 
> hardware on actual notebooks are not supported by the installation 
> kernel, but are supported by a newer kernel.
> 
> IMO there should be always the actual and released stable kernel for 
> installation in debian/stable. With "a stable kernel" is a kernel meant, 
> which is released by Linus Torvalds.
> 
> Is there any reason, why there is installed an old kernel (with probably 
> security holes or unpatched things)? Just a question.....
> 
> 2. The other thing, which I ran into, was, that for net based 
> installation I needed the firmware for the wireless card. The package 
> was firmware-iwlwifi.
> 
> This package was neither on the netinst-iso, nor on the 9.5-DVD-iso.
> 
> The only reason, why it is not on the installation media , might be a 
> problem with the license. But behaving so, makes an installation very 
> difficult.
> 
> IMO these very necessary packages should (more MUST) exist on a 
> installation media.
> 
> Of course, you can say, get the firmware and put it on an usb-stick, 
> however, this is very uncomfortable. And do not forget about newbies: I 
> doubt, they will be able to solve the problem!
> 
> Please apologize, I know, that I may be wrong. But I just wanted to 
> mention this, as these points should IMHO really improved. So see this 
> mail just as a feedback and a suggestion, whatever. Don't be anger.
> 
> Thanks for reading this!
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Hans
> 


Hello (and hello list! I'm new here :) ),

About the "old kernel", aren't those patched by the Debian Security 
team? AFAIK they are fairly secure and with not outstanding bugs.

For newer laptops I would recommend trying the testing alpha installers 
which usually have newer kernels.

regarding the firmware part, isn't that firmware on the "unnofficial" 
builds that include non-free firmwares?

I just came back to debian recently and found these images[1] through 
googling debian+firmware , still visibility on the main page could be 
improved.

Hope that helps.


[0]https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/ia64/apds03.html.en

[1]https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

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