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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... |
| Date | 2018-03-20 14:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vvpEC-4Lh-13@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 08:28:20 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > P.S. someone said that bounces are generated using the Reply-To: header. > This is incorrect (or at least, would be a violation of the protocols). > Bounces are sent to the envelope sender address (the one given by the > sender during the SMTP session), without looking at the message itself. > > Of course, the envelope sender is just as easy to forge as the > Reply-To: header is. The sender only needs to lie about who it is. > The receiver has no way to verify the address, other than "yeah, that > domain exists in DNS". But if that IP address sends loads of undeliverable mail, why not just block it? I was under the impression that that's what IP address blacklisting was all about. > That's how backscatter (a.k.a. "joe-jobbing") works. The spammer > sends mail to an invalid address and lies about the envelope sender > address. The receiver generates a bounce to the forged envelope > sender address. Voila, spam sent -- by the poor schmuck in the middle > who was just trying to follow the SMTP protocol properly. The only > one who can identify the actual sender is the one who generated the > bounce, and the only identifying information that system has is the > IP address from which the message was sent. Everything else (envelope > sender, message headers, message body) is fabricated. Cheers, David.
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Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-03-19 14:20 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-03-19 15:50 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-03-19 15:50 +0100
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Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-03-19 16:30 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-03-19 16:40 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2018-03-19 17:00 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-03-19 17:30 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-19 18:50 +0100
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Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-03-19 19:40 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-03-19 16:40 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-03-19 18:20 +0100
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Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Nick Boyce <nick@steelyglint.org> - 2018-03-19 22:20 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Karol Augustin <karol@augustin.pl> - 2018-03-19 22:40 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-03-19 23:30 +0100
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Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-03-20 10:50 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-20 13:30 +0100
Re: More then 2800 spams from the list... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-20 14:40 +0100
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