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Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

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On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 +0000 (UTC) David Griffith <dave@661.org>
wrote:

> 
> Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove
> libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit?  The
> ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused slowly-progressing trouble
> with several machines of mine culminating in complete failure a
> couple days ago.  Initially I thought this was unrelated to systemd,
> but now I tracked it down to systemd's remnants and the problem is
> progressing much faster with freshly-installed machines.
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Griffith
> dave@661.org

First, how exactly did you convert to sysvinit, etc? And what kind of
trouble?

I've been running Stretch with sysvinit for almost a year -- as
a personal machine, not a server -- and have had absolutely NO
problems.  Here's the link I used:

http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_Stretch_installation

I used the very first conversion steps, the simplest one, and none
of the optional ones.  No pinning.  No third-party systemdless repos,
etc. I still have systemd libraries including libsystemd0 for those apps
that have systemd as a dependenciy.  No problems.  Totally removing
systemd is a pain requiring third-party systemdless repos and keeping a
wary eye out for problems. I did it a couple times as part of my
experiments, and always had glitches.

One thing did just occur to me: Are you using the GNOME desktop?  I've
heard stories about it and systemd.  It is VERY dependent on it. I
haven't used GNOME whatever version for about 7 years. I use only a
window manager Openbox.

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Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-06 05:20 +0200
  Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-05-06 09:00 +0200
  Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 19:20 +0200
    Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-07 03:50 +0200
      Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-05-07 04:30 +0200
        Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-07 08:40 +0200
          Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system Ansgar Burchardt <"Ansgar Burchardt"@43-1.org> - 2018-05-07 10:00 +0200
      Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 22:00 +0200
        Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-08 01:50 +0200
          Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-05-08 06:40 +0200
            Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-08 09:00 +0200
            Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-08 11:30 +0200

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