Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook
Date	2017-09-15 03:30 +0200
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On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 12:36:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote:
> 
> > 	Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Begin rant:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping
> > > > agencies, this exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times
> > > > longer (If I do it once a week for instance) compared to fetchmail
> > > > pulling and deleting it every 3 minutes.
> > >
> > > Oh, I see. So if you can just get your emails in and out of the
> > > ISP's system within three minutes, this will catch the snoopers
> > > napping/ on coffee break/gossiping round the water cooler/however
> > > the agency's monitors take their breaks. Do you have a similar
> > > strategy for crossing toll bridges? Like climbing the piers and then
> > > sprinting across, so avoiding the approaches where those pesky toll
> > > booths are located.
> >
> > While it's a legitimate point, the better one would be the following:
> >
> > How can you be sure that deleting mail at your ISP server actually
> > deletes it?
> >
> > It's very easy to setup mail delivery in such way that every e-mail is
> > stored in two different places, first one for the users' IMAP, and
> > second one is for … backup purposes, so to speak.
> >
> > Reco
> 
> Given todays $50/terrabyte of storage, it sure isn't the resource problem 
> it was 10 years ago. So I'd expect its being done.  Scary ain't it.

I didn't think this thread was about resources, but mechanism of
delivery and the issue of colocation of backups. Moving emails
from a remote server to home and immediately deleting them on the
server means that you now have a single point of failure. That's
why I asked whether it's simple to deliver to two unrelated places
at once before deleting the server's copy. I don't know how to do
this, nor think it's necessarily going to be simple.

Cheers,
David.

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  Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-09-13 22:20 +0200
  Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2017-09-13 22:20 +0200
  Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Sarunas Burdulis <sarunas@math.dartmouth.edu> - 2017-09-13 22:40 +0200
  Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-09-13 22:50 +0200
  Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-14 09:00 +0200
  Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-14 10:00 +0200
    Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-09-14 13:40 +0200
      Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-09-14 14:00 +0200
        Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-14 14:20 +0200
          Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-14 17:00 +0200
            Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-14 17:30 +0200
              Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-14 18:00 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-14 18:20 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-14 18:30 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-14 18:40 +0200
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                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-09-16 16:40 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-16 17:30 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2017-09-16 18:10 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-14 18:40 +0200
                Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-15 03:30 +0200
                OT: Crossing toll bridges (was Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-09-15 14:50 +0200
              Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-14 18:30 +0200
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              Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-14 19:00 +0200
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              Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-14 18:40 +0200
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