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Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso
Date 2017-03-07 21:30 +0100
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On Tue 07 Mar 2017 at 20:25:30 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i wrote:
> > > It has its use cases. E.g. before you put a Debian installation ISO
> > > onto an USB stick, it can be used to backup the old stick content
> 
> David Wright wrote:
> > Why would you now copy the old stick content onto the stick again?
> 
> When you no longer need the installation ISO because the installation
> is done, wouldn't it be nice to get the DOS formatted USB stick back
> for carrying files between computers ?

Forgive me for asking, but have you read the OP?

The OP said they had a USB stick containing 1.7GB of data on it.
They copied the stick to a file, usbfilename.iso, with dd.
They then copied usbfilename.iso back onto the stick in order to
"test the validity" by running dd with if=/of= reversed.

There was no indication whether the stick contained a bunch of jessie
.deb files or a copy of their doctoral thesis. Either way, I can't see
the sense of backing up a filesystem to an image file and then, for
the sake of it, using the image file to overwrite the original filesystem.

And, assuming the process was left to completion (which it wasn't),
what validity would have been tested? What would constitute a pass,
and what would distinguish a fail?

There was no indication that the stick had been used for something
else in the interim.

> A plain dd copy of the stick provides boot sector, partitioning,
> filesystem, and data file content in one sweep. No fdisk, no mkfs,
> no grub-install, no restoring of a backup archive needed.

Yes, yes, this is back to the technical details of making copies.
That wasn't the subject of my first post and I said as much.

> > That's what the OP wrote that they did, in order to "test the validity".
> 
> Since she or he knows punching cards, i assume that there is knowledge
> of Murphy's Law, too.
> 
> > ¹We had two glitches yesterday evening as the tornadoes went by.
> 
> I have a UPS between power provider and computer. Murphy's law ...

…which cost €...?

Cheers,
David.

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Some help with dd backing up into an iso GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-07 01:20 +0100
  Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-03-07 02:10 +0100
  Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-07 06:10 +0100
    Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-07 07:00 +0100
      Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-07 09:00 +0100
        Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-07 18:30 +0100
          Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-07 20:20 +0100
            Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-08 05:00 +0100
              Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-08 07:00 +0100
              Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-08 12:10 +0100
                MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before first  partition David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-09 06:50 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-09 08:00 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-10 06:10 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-10 10:00 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-11 07:10 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-13 10:10 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-14 04:40 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 11:40 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-15 03:50 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-03-14 13:00 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-15 04:10 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2017-03-15 04:40 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-15 13:00 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before first partition "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-09 08:30 +0100
                Re: MBR partitioning, and content after partition table but before  first partition Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-09 15:40 +0100
    Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2017-03-07 09:30 +0100
      Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-07 09:40 +0100
        Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2017-03-07 10:00 +0100
          Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-07 10:10 +0100
          Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-03-07 16:20 +0100
      Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-07 11:10 +0100
      Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-08 06:00 +0100
  Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 12:10 +0100
  Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2017-03-07 14:50 +0100
  Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2017-03-07 15:20 +0100
  Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-03-07 16:20 +0100
    Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-07 18:10 +0100
      Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-03-07 19:00 +0100
        Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-07 20:30 +0100
          Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-03-07 21:30 +0100
            Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-03-07 22:10 +0100
              Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-08 18:30 +0100
                Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-03-08 19:20 +0100

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