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On Wed 02 Dec 2015 at 16:59:23 (-0600), Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Dec 2015, Jape Person wrote:
> > It's occurred to me that, though I have occasionally seen service
> > shutown issues with sysv-init, they were never as pervasive or
> > repetitve as it has been since switching to systemd as the init
> > system.
> 
> This is generally because sysv-init tends to not pay attention to
> whether a particular service has actually stopped. Many init scripts
> just send an appropriate signal, hope for the best, and return control.
>  
> If your goal is just to shutdown the system regardless of what is
> actually going on, that's great... but if you value your data, that's
> not really a workable solution.

Which data do you mean? By the time I instigate a shutdown, I've saved
my data and, if at home, copied to my server. So I'm hoping that's safe.

By the time these Stop jobs start running, there are just system
processes running. I don't really care about them as long as the
filesystems get unmounted. Almost anything is better than a forced
poweroff followed by fscking saying things at the next boot.

> That said, most of these cases are bugs, not really cases where the
> daemon is actually doing something; reporting the bugs when you run into
> them will help them get fixed.

At the time I had the timeout-increasing problem, I was still focussed
on getting Start jobs to succeed, particularly when the kernel
"forgot" to load binfmt_misc (for help on which, I thank you again).

Cheers,
David.

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A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-01 03:20 +0100
  Re: A stop job is running for... Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-12-01 15:50 +0100
    Re: A stop job is running for... "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 04:40 +0100
      Re: A stop job is running for... Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 12:10 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 16:20 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... "James P. Wallen" <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 16:20 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-12-03 11:30 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 18:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 19:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 21:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 22:10 +0100
                Systemd debugging (was ... Re: A stop job is running for...) Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-04 10:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2015-12-03 19:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 22:20 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-02 17:00 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 18:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-02 18:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 19:00 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2015-12-02 20:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 20:30 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-06 03:30 +0100
        Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-02 19:30 +0100
          Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-02 20:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2015-12-03 00:00 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-03 00:40 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-12-03 20:20 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2015-12-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-12-05 07:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2015-12-05 17:10 +0100
            Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 02:20 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-03 03:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2015-12-03 04:10 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 04:30 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 04:30 +0100
              Re: A stop job is running for... Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-12-03 08:50 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-03 12:00 +0100
                Re: A stop job is running for... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-03 13:10 +0100

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