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Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

From "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly
Date 2024-04-22 23:20 +0200
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:02:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact?
> >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html
> >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`?
> > but perhaps without all the deception crap, unless you really mean
> > to impugn the developers' motives.
> 
> Yup, better try to make the developers/maintainers your friends, so you
> may get them to do something with which they disagree just to make you
> happy, rather than refuse to do something out of spite, even tho they
> know it's right.
> 

Hi Stefan,

As you say, there are ways to get the developers to pay attention to
you. One of them, at least, is to be constructive and to assume good
faith. Developers will often take the best technical solution rather
than doing it "just to make you happy".

Rarely do developers do something out of spite though there may be
massive technical disagreements. It's probably worth remembering 
that Debian developers are also users of Debian - and that we're 
all more or less on the same side.

Imputation of bad faith (or snarky comments) don't help either the 
person commented on or the reputation of the commenter, necessarily.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andrew Cater
[amacater@debian.org]

> 
>         Stefan
>

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Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software  unfriendly Reid <reidbox@proinbox.com> - 2024-04-21 20:50 +0200
  Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-04-21 22:00 +0200
    Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software  unfriendly Reid <reidbox@proinbox.com> - 2024-04-21 23:00 +0200
      Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-04-22 08:30 +0200
      Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2024-04-22 11:40 +0200
      Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-22 16:40 +0200
        Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-04-22 16:50 +0200
          Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-22 17:10 +0200
            Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software  unfriendly Reid <reidbox@proinbox.com> - 2024-04-22 23:00 +0200
              Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-23 15:30 +0200
                Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2024-04-23 15:30 +0200
        Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2024-04-22 18:30 +0200
          Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-22 18:50 +0200
  Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-04-21 23:40 +0200
    Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-04-22 01:00 +0200
      Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software  unfriendly Reid <reidbox@proinbox.com> - 2024-04-22 02:20 +0200
        Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-04-22 04:00 +0200
          Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-04-22 05:30 +0200
            Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-04-22 23:10 +0200
              Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-04-22 23:20 +0200
  Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free  Software unfriendly "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-04-22 22:00 +0200
    Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software  unfriendly Reid <reidbox@proinbox.com> - 2024-04-22 23:00 +0200

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