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Re: strange time problem with bullseye

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On 3/6/24 18:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 05:56:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 3/6/24 12:42, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:31:46PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
>>>>       sudo timedatectl set-ntp true
>>>
>>> But *don't* do that if you're using some other NTP program instead of
>>> systemd-timesyncd.
> 
>> Are you saying that both chrony and ntpsec, which are fully ntp
>> client/server ack the docs are worthless to timedatectl?
> 
> I'm saying "don't turn on systemd's NTP thing if you're using a different
> NTP thing".
> 
> Roy's instructions failed to take into account that many of us are
> already using a different NTP implementation, besides systemd's.

I can turn either off, but no place in the ntpsec docs, nor the chrony 
docs does it show the ability to slam the current time into the SW clock 
on these arm systems at bootup's first access time.  And the normal 
correction is maybe a second an hour so it its been turned off for a 
week, its another week out of time when turned back on. The whole thing 
never considered the no hwclock situation that exists in 99% of the arm 
world. I was hoping timedatectl had that ability but I see it says you 
must be synched first. The rpis's can do it, whats the secret recipe?

Thank Greg, take care & stay well.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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Re: strange time problem with bullseye Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2024-03-06 06:40 +0100
  Re: strange time problem with bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-03-06 13:10 +0100
    Re: strange time problem with bullseye Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-03-06 19:10 +0100
    Re: strange time problem with bullseye David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-03-06 20:30 +0100
  Re: strange time problem with bullseye "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-03-06 18:20 +0100
    Re: strange time problem with bullseye Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2024-03-06 18:40 +0100
      Re: strange time problem with bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-03-06 18:50 +0100
        Re: strange time problem with bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-07 00:00 +0100
          Re: strange time problem with bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-03-07 00:10 +0100
            Re: strange time problem with bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-07 02:40 +0100
              Re: strange time problem with bullseye John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-03-07 03:10 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-03-07 06:30 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-07 14:40 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-03-07 14:50 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-03-07 17:20 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-07 17:40 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2024-03-07 15:10 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-03-07 20:40 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-03-07 20:50 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-03-08 18:30 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-03-07 17:00 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-07 17:40 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye/buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-03-07 18:20 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye/buster gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-08 01:20 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye/buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-03-08 03:40 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye/buster gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-08 04:30 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye/buster Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-03-08 17:20 +0100
              Re: strange time problem with bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-03-07 03:40 +0100
                Re: strange time problem with bullseye <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-03-07 06:30 +0100
        Re: strange time problem with bullseye "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-03-07 20:20 +0100
          Re: strange time problem with bullseye Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-03-07 20:50 +0100
          Re: strange time problem with bullseye gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-03-08 01:30 +0100
    Re: strange time problem with bullseye Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-03-06 18:50 +0100

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