Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: gene heskett Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: strange time problem with bullseye Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2024 02:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Thu Mar 7 01:34:10 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.05 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SARE_MLH_Stock10=1.66, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -3.5 Auth-Sender: gheskett@shentel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ctch-Spam: Unknown X-Ctch-Refid: str=0001.0A702F29.65E91972.0037,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Originalarrivaltime: 07 Mar 2024 01:33:38.0519 (UTC) FILETIME=[7AB33670:01DA702F] X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/810053 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/3afb493f-0d63-4ace-8d91-a301544349d5@shentel.net Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 35 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 20:33:37 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <3afb493f-0d63-4ace-8d91-a301544349d5@shentel.net> X-Original-References: <24df12d3-7c60-4826-b2e9-9b3347f9ff9f@shentel.net> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:268121 On 3/6/24 18:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 05:56:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> On 3/6/24 12:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:31:46PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: >>>> sudo timedatectl set-ntp true >>> >>> But *don't* do that if you're using some other NTP program instead of >>> systemd-timesyncd. > >> Are you saying that both chrony and ntpsec, which are fully ntp >> client/server ack the docs are worthless to timedatectl? > > I'm saying "don't turn on systemd's NTP thing if you're using a different > NTP thing". > > Roy's instructions failed to take into account that many of us are > already using a different NTP implementation, besides systemd's. I can turn either off, but no place in the ntpsec docs, nor the chrony docs does it show the ability to slam the current time into the SW clock on these arm systems at bootup's first access time. And the normal correction is maybe a second an hour so it its been turned off for a week, its another week out of time when turned back on. The whole thing never considered the no hwclock situation that exists in 99% of the arm world. I was hoping timedatectl had that ability but I see it says you must be synched first. The rpis's can do it, whats the secret recipe? Thank Greg, take care & stay well. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis