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Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

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On 03/06/2024 00:19, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 3/6/24 01:16, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote:
>>>>> On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example: New question [WAS Old topic]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are square brackets intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips "(was:"
>>>>>> subject part from response subject.
[...]
>>>> "Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation"
>>>> is apparently not molested by Tbird.
[...]
>>>> "Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, 
>>>> Debian 8 sshd"
[...]
>> "[SECURITY] [DSA 5703-1] linux security update"
[...]
> "Re: [Users] How to check if Bogofilter is still working?"

Relax. In the case of thunderbird the pattern is namely " (was:".

It is not configurable, but I do not expect significant rate of false 
positives. I do not see any problem with this behavior as the default. 
When subject is changed you see both old and new variants. In follow-ups 
it allows to keep subject concise without additional efforts from users. 
Messages still have links to all messages in the thread in the 
References header, so you may find original subject if you need it.

UI may offer to revert subject to the original one and I would consider 
it as an improvement.

Regexp in Emacs includes square bracket and variation of case. However 
there are more tunables:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/gnus/message.el#n321
- `message-subject-trailing-was-query'
- `message-subject-trailing-was-ask-regexp'
- `message-subject-trailing-was-regexp'

I accidentally noticed stripping old subject part in another mailing 
list, so I was curious if "[WAS" in the FAQ follows another convention 
than thunderbird implements. Andrew clarified that it is just an example 
and it is intended for humans.

It seems thunderbird may add "(was:", but I have never used message 
templates.

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Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-06-01 22:10 +0200
  Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for  Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501)) Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-02 05:10 +0200
    Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 05:20 +0200
    Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ  for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501)) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-02 05:20 +0200
      Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 05:30 +0200
    Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ  for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501)) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-06-02 12:10 +0200
    Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for  Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501)) eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-02 19:00 +0200
      Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 19:10 +0200
        Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re:  Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 19:20 +0200
          Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re:  Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 05:30 +0200
        Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re:  Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 19:20 +0200
        Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or  square brackets and "was" Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 19:20 +0200

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